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re: New conspiracy theory. Was grunge put together the same as boy bands in the 90's?

Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:14 pm to
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Nineteen and fricking ninety two.

Get the frick on down the road with your drivel.


No shite, sherlock.

My point is that Eddie has been a long time activist for left wing causes but has no problem kissing the arse and taking a check from a guy who is a major donor of a political ideology he is vocally opposed to.

Not defending Ricketts either, he's another opportunist but instead of paying Eddie Vedder to write the most annoying 5 second song ever he could have, oh I don't know, spent money on the team to win ballgames? Somehow he doesn't have the money for that but didn't mind actually reaching into his own coffers to finally improve Wrigley. That was only when his begging hand was slapped back by the city when he wanted taxpayers to fund renovations.

He's a hypocrite but then again so is Ricketts so they deserve each other. At least their stuff from back then is decent. I think they went downhill since No Code.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:18 pm to
Courtney Love was the Lou Pearlman of grunge.

Sexually.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:27 pm to
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Courtney Love was the Lou Pearlman of grunge.

Sexually.


Ackshully, in addition to Billy Corgan co-writing the majority Celebrity Skin, it is heavily speculated that Kurt Cobain was a co-writer for much of Live Through This.

Edit: Corgan’s involvement on Celebrity Skin is not in dispute. He’s listed as co-writer and producer for the album. But some people think Cobain should have received similar songwriting credits for Live Through This.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:55 pm to
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Layne Staley wasn’t in a boy band


Alice in Chains also wasn't grunge.

The media put them in that box because they were from that time and Seattle.

Their sound pummels any grunge act from that time.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 10:15 pm to
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Alice in Chains also wasn't grunge.

The media put them in that box because they were from that time and Seattle.

Their sound pummels any grunge act from that time.



Perhaps Facelift was more metal than grunge, but Dirt, Jar of Flies, and their self-titled 1995 album are very much grunge albums. (Grunge encompassed a spectrum from metal to punk. And Alice in Chains were on the metal side with Soundgarden.)

Edit: Nirvana was also very much on that side of the spectrum up until and including Bleach. It was with Nevermind that they shifted to what we now call "punk pop."

Edit: The metallic side of grunge was differentiated from other forms of heavy metal by a much slower tempo and an emphasis on power chord riffing compared to the virtuosic and lightning fast tempo of thrash metal that was popular at the same time.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 10:49 pm to
Layout the albums of those four bands that you think are “grunge”, I’m really curious after you just called Dirt a grunge album, but facelift a metal album.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 10:54 pm to
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Layout the albums of those four bands that you think are “grunge”, I’m really curious after you just called Dirt a grunge album, but facelift a metal album.


Sorry, I’m a little unsure of what you’re asking. Could you re-state?

Edit: I think I understand you now.

Well, to clarify, I was only saying that of the four AIC albums, Facelift is the most of “metal” compared to the other 3 albums. But unlike the commenter I was responding to, I think AIC is definitely a “grunge” band. So, I basically consider all of their albums to be grunge, more or less.

For Nirvana, I think the only one that doesn’t quite fit the mold is Nevermind, in particular the second half of that album is really, really poppy. “Drain You” and “On A Plain” sound more like Green Day songs than grunge songs.

As for Soundgarden, I think pretty much all of their albums fit the grunge style.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:41 pm to
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“You ever seen Pearl Jam live?”



Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:13 am to
Conway Twitty and Waylon Jennings were old rock n roll stars....what's your point?
Posted by 0x15E
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:49 am to
I see someone watched the Woodstock ‘99 doc on HBO Max
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:36 am to
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.what's your point?



what I had mentioned in an earlier post, that "artists" aren't typically original thinking, they shape their image/brand to put food in on their plate, more often than not they follow the crowd so to speak to make themselves "unique"
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