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re: New conspiracy theory. Was grunge put together the same as boy bands in the 90's?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:19 am to JonTigerFan11
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:19 am to JonTigerFan11
Pretty sure they were all boys
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:20 am to UndercoverBryologist
quote:I hear you but that's really not comparable to the OP comparing it to boy bands.
forget who it was, but one band admitted they never wore flannel until Nirvana hit big and all of a sudden, they were told to make their image more “Seattle.”
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:30 am to Pechon
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You only hear more about their political stances now because everything has to be political and now we have social media to showcase it.
Nineteen and fricking ninety two.
Get the frick on down the road with your drivel.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:38 am to James11111
All you guys should watch “CBGB” with Alan Rickman as Hilly Krystal… origin story for a lot of “punk” bands/performers.
Really well produced and edited as well.
You’re welcome.
Really well produced and edited as well.
You’re welcome.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:40 am to bakersman
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You don’t heard people still bumping to limp bizkit
Fancy way to say you don't visit Jacksonville.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 12:35 pm to Jax Teller
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The Melvins was the OG “grunge” band and a million percent authentic.
FTFY.
And everyone wore flannel because anyone who’s ever been to Grays Harbor county knows that everyone has loggers in their families. It’s cold, wet, and shitty nine months out of the year. My wife’s town is/was full of loggers.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 1:03 pm to UndercoverBryologist
The music industry is built on copycatting. Someone does something successful then everyone else tries to imitate it.
Were the first wave of grunge bands manufactured by the industry? No, they may have been “produced” a bit to be more commercial but they already existed and had their own style before they hit it big.
Subsequent bands? Yeah, those were likely manufactured to keeping riding the wave. Especially after Cobain died and Pearl Jam started warring with Ticketmaster and doing “new sound” albums like Vitology rather than trying to do the next Ten or Vs.
Nirvana’s sound before, during, and after Nevermind was generally the same. Biggest single difference is that the mixing of Nevermind was done in a way to sound more professional rather than the garage band sound they were going for. And Cobain really didn’t like it but let the studio do it IIRC.
Want to hear the difference? Play the album version off Nevermind then play the live version on From The Banks Of The Wishkah.
Were the first wave of grunge bands manufactured by the industry? No, they may have been “produced” a bit to be more commercial but they already existed and had their own style before they hit it big.
Subsequent bands? Yeah, those were likely manufactured to keeping riding the wave. Especially after Cobain died and Pearl Jam started warring with Ticketmaster and doing “new sound” albums like Vitology rather than trying to do the next Ten or Vs.
Nirvana’s sound before, during, and after Nevermind was generally the same. Biggest single difference is that the mixing of Nevermind was done in a way to sound more professional rather than the garage band sound they were going for. And Cobain really didn’t like it but let the studio do it IIRC.
Want to hear the difference? Play the album version off Nevermind then play the live version on From The Banks Of The Wishkah.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 1:06 pm to teke184
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Want to hear the difference? Play the album version off Nevermind then play the live version on From The Banks Of The Wishkah.
Yep, I'm not trashing Nirvana, even though Nevermind's production is slick. They were intentionally going for the most slick version of their music. And then Andy Wallace took the slickness into overdrive with how he mixed it.
They definitely play "Smell Like Teen Spirit" differently on the album than how they play it live. It's a slower tempo (like 20 BPM slower) than the live version of the song.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 3:16 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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My War by Black Flag, which came out in 1984,
Saw Black Flag at The Stone in San Francico in 1985. Great show.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 3:34 pm to davyjones
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If you want to consider Red Hot Chili Peppers "Grunge"
Why would we do that?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:59 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Sub Pop
They coined the term in relation the the Seattle music scene, in reference to Green River.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:09 pm to UndercoverBryologist
quote:. Please links some AIC hair metal.
Alice N Chains and Mother Love Bone to switch their sound from glam metal to grunge.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:14 pm to UndercoverBryologist
quote:Jerry is AIC bro.
Regardless of anything else said in this thread, the fact that Alice in Chains started out as a glam, hair metal band is not in dispute.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:14 pm to White Bear
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:07 pm to DaleGribble
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Uh, Prince signed a record deal at 17 that allowed him to write, produce, and play all of the instruments on all of his albums...and he was coming out on stage in a speedo and a trench coat at the time.
If you have enough talent, you get the deal that you deserve.
And that was considered an absolutely rarity even back then. Saying that, he had zero control over what songs were released and when they could be released, he also didn't legally own any of that music. Thats the reason he changed his name to a symbol, he thought that would be a way around his contractual obligations, which failed miserably. There are stories everywhere from huge artists about how controlled they are by their labels. Signing bonuses are literally a loan, and most artists only make money by touring tirelessly to pay them off. I signed one in 2008, be it a small label, the language is more or less an industry standard. Some get better deals than others, but all basically get fricked in the end.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 4:49 am
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:15 pm to mikelbr
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Wait. Do you think Black Sabbath really worshipped the devil or even funnier Led Zeppelin and Kiss?
Jimmy Page was into the occult. That is no big secret. Page was fascinated by Aleister Crowley and dabbled in black magick and demonology and actively participated in rituals. There is the curse on Led Zeppelin. John Bonham and the death of Robert Plant's son are part of the curse.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:26 pm to Ed Osteen
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If you want to consider Red Hot Chili Peppers "Grunge"
Why would we do that?
Why? Because if you consider grunge the fusion of punk and rock being closely followed by the same or similar crowd during the relevant time frame in which grunge was formed, well then that time frame of RHCP's career certainly fits this bill. If YOU have a different definition of "grunge" then I guess I'd say you should ignore my post and move along to something else.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:43 pm to James11111
I wouldn't really call this a conspiracy theory. I think Puddle of Mudd was put together. Im sure some of the 80s rock bands were as well. For some reason I want to say Winger might have been..
Don't ask me how I know, but for some reason I think I heard that before. It might not be true.
When it comes to boy bands was Boyz II Men put together?
When it comes to boy bands was Boyz II Men put together?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:58 pm to OweO
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grunge
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Puddle of Mudd
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80s rock bands
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Winger
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boy bands
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Boyz II Men
You fricking dolt!
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
its amazing, his 1 post and its the dumbest of the day
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:04 pm
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