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Risk 2.0 - FEMA Finnda Eat!
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:15 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:15 am
So as far as I can tell, most folks don't know this major change to the National Flood Insurance Program is about to happen, starting on Oct 1, 2021.
FEMA is completely revamping the flood insurance program with a new system called Risk 2.0. FEMA has been tight lipped regarding all of the details of the program, including who all is going to be impacted and by how much ($,$$$). Most of the information that we've been able to dig up has been anecdotal, "word on the street" type stuff.
However, we believe that, when implemented, this new system will have widespread and substantial impacts on the cost of flood insurance and will expand on who is required to carry flood insurance (looking at you, Zone X!).
If anybody has insider knowledge on what is about to happen with this (insurance agents, engineers, surveyors, CFM's, etc.), please chime in.
The calls are starting to trickle in on this. One in particular, Zone X via LOMA - quoted $4k / year on the new program.
Risk 2.0
Correction: Zone X will NOT be required to carry under Risk 2.0
"According to FEMA, although flood zones on a FIRM will not be used to calculate a property’s flood insurance premium,
flood zones will still be used for floodplain management purposes, and the boundary of the Special Flood Hazard Area will
still be required for the mandatory purchase requirement."
LINK
FEMA is completely revamping the flood insurance program with a new system called Risk 2.0. FEMA has been tight lipped regarding all of the details of the program, including who all is going to be impacted and by how much ($,$$$). Most of the information that we've been able to dig up has been anecdotal, "word on the street" type stuff.
However, we believe that, when implemented, this new system will have widespread and substantial impacts on the cost of flood insurance and will expand on who is required to carry flood insurance (looking at you, Zone X!).
If anybody has insider knowledge on what is about to happen with this (insurance agents, engineers, surveyors, CFM's, etc.), please chime in.
The calls are starting to trickle in on this. One in particular, Zone X via LOMA - quoted $4k / year on the new program.
Risk 2.0
Correction: Zone X will NOT be required to carry under Risk 2.0
"According to FEMA, although flood zones on a FIRM will not be used to calculate a property’s flood insurance premium,
flood zones will still be used for floodplain management purposes, and the boundary of the Special Flood Hazard Area will
still be required for the mandatory purchase requirement."
LINK
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:16 am to lafloodcert
$4000 a year? They can GFT
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:18 am to lafloodcert
The system is broken- Insurance/government no longer provides a service of any value but we still have to pay out the arse for it. The day of reckoning is coming.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:20 am to lafloodcert
Two things immediately stand out as troubling on that page. The word EQUITY and
Those words don't mean what they say they mean.
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Also beginning Oct. 1, existing policyholders eligible for renewal will be able to take advantage of immediate decreases in their premiums.
Those words don't mean what they say they mean.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:22 am to lafloodcert
It's limited to an 18% increase per year (still too much). Straight from the link you provided... I hate the government but lets pump the sky is falling brakes a bit.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 10:23 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:23 am to lafloodcert
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and will expand on who is required to carry flood insurance (looking at you, Zone X!).
fema doesn't set the requirements on who is required to carry flood insurance.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:28 am to lafloodcert
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One in particular, Zone X via LOMA - quoted $4k / year on the new program.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:30 am to lafloodcert
Rates look horrible so far. Will lead to many X zones not buying flood insurance.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:34 am to lafloodcert
Discouraging people from living where it floods is a good idea.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:35 am to lafloodcert
Is this where you apply to get generator and chainsaw money?
This means 97% of policyholders will see a substantial increase. If you like your flood insurance you can keep your flood insurance. Most policyholders and family of four will see a decrease. Sounds familiar?
quote:
97% of current policyholders’ premiums will either decrease or increase by $20 or less per month under Risk 2.0
This means 97% of policyholders will see a substantial increase. If you like your flood insurance you can keep your flood insurance. Most policyholders and family of four will see a decrease. Sounds familiar?
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:38 am to lafloodcert
I got a quote for $572 a few months ago. Called my agent yesterday to get the ball rolling and the price had jumped to $1800
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:42 am to lafloodcert
Just quoted a flood zone X again- last year was 572.00. New rating with 2.0, 2100 a year.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:43 am to lafloodcert
I was always told that if you carry flood insurance when you don't need it, you are granfathered in at that price even if they rezone you.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:46 am to lafloodcert
This same shite came out a few years back.. But then the cost of FI was going to be $10,000. frick these internet trolls...It's sadistic to put out false info at a time like this...
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:47 am to lafloodcert
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lafloodcert
Give me a break. Fema has talked about this for years and the only reason it didn't happen sooner is Congress keeps delaying it. This isn't some smoke and mirrors conspiracy. The National Flood Insurance Program is broken because people do not pay the true actuarial cost reflective of the risk for the areas they choose to live in. The NFIP runs a multi-billion dollar deficit every year because the taxpayers of America bail out its losses. Taxpayers are bailing out coastal homeowners for building stupid things in stupid places. Local examples include slab-on-grade homes in Lafitte and Braithewait...stupid. Nationally, we have people building on the seaward side of dunes up and down the east coast, Dauphin Island, etc. etc...stupid. This is the story of the three little pigs, except the pigs who built their houses of straw and sticks not only are astonished when they get blown down, but then turn around and expect the other pigs to pay for reconstruction in the same stupid manner in the same stupid location. What happened to personal responsibility? If we want to get into this from an equity standpoint, the NFIP tends to benefit mostly those who are already affluent, since the total value of losses each year is concentrated in assets along coasts, which are often more high-dollar real estate and second homes.
From an analytical perspective, it may actually help many areas in Louisiana, since there will be more accounting of natural features and non-federal flood protection infrastructure in the Flood Insurance Rate Map process, all of which FEMA currently does a dogshit job of accounting for when modeling and making flood maps.
So, in summary, Risk Rating 2.0 encourages more personal responsibility. Think before you build. Pay what you owe in a free market. Oddly, for the current political climate, this is a pretty conservative, responsible, American thing to do as a nation.
Risk Rating 2.0 will have people pay what it truly costs to ensure risky decisions, plain and simple.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:49 am to lafloodcert
We need to encourage new ways to develop/build and discourage people from living in ways that get them flooded.
The government should not be subsidizing people to live in flood prone areas.
The government should not be subsidizing people to live in flood prone areas.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:50 am to lafloodcert
If my zone x premium goes to 4,000 a year I’m dropping it and will just suck on their tits at claim time. The rest of the fricking country does it anyway.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:50 am to lafloodcert
If I see a renewal premium remotely in that neighborhood for my home in zone X next year, I’ll gladly sell my house and move my happy arse right out of LA. I hear good things are happening in middle Tennessee.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:52 am to lafloodcert
The FEMA rule of 2 floods within any 10 year period needs to be revamped as well if they are making changes. Bought a house and the owners at the time “didn’t carry flood” but we were told we would be a Flood Zone X. A few months later we are notified of this rule and get hit with the highest premiums. We have been in the home 10+ years now with zero flood claims.
At what point will residents be able to pursue actions against local government for failing to maintain proper drainage is another issue. It’s pretty well documented how crappy our current drainage system is, and pumps seem to “fail” constantly but when our homes flood, we have to fight with insurance to restore what we had regardless of the pumps failing and drains being clogged with beads, trash, debris, vehicles, etc. It blows my mind that homeowners haven’t banned together to go after this.
At what point will residents be able to pursue actions against local government for failing to maintain proper drainage is another issue. It’s pretty well documented how crappy our current drainage system is, and pumps seem to “fail” constantly but when our homes flood, we have to fight with insurance to restore what we had regardless of the pumps failing and drains being clogged with beads, trash, debris, vehicles, etc. It blows my mind that homeowners haven’t banned together to go after this.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:04 am to lafloodcert
So it seems like there will no longer be zones for premium purchases... just every property rated individually?
I am in an X zone which makes no sense but it's because of the rebuilt levees in St. Bernard. I could easily see getting my rate spiked higher - even though we have not flooded since Katrina.
Welp my renewal is in Feb so I guess I don't have to worry about this until my Feb 23 renewal.
I am in an X zone which makes no sense but it's because of the rebuilt levees in St. Bernard. I could easily see getting my rate spiked higher - even though we have not flooded since Katrina.
Welp my renewal is in Feb so I guess I don't have to worry about this until my Feb 23 renewal.
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