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re: What responsibility do hospitalized, unvaxed people bear when they deny others healthcare?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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In all of these scenarios, dozens and dozens of unvaccinated people ended up creating negative externalities that negatively affected others.
Is healthcare a right or not, libs? We were told with Obamacare its a right and my body my choice. Which one are we going to stick with? Cant have both.
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:16 am to tiger91
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Full icus have happened before covid and will continue to happen.
in random, isolated events, sure. or for acute seasons of disease (like the flu), sure.
but this is a long-term event that is in no way random. that argument is gone now, too.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:16 am to Y.A. Tittle
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There doesn’t seem to be anything in the linked article that would indicate this actually had anything to do with the man’s death.
You're questioning the narrative
Misinformation! Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
So now a covid patient outranks a patient with some other life threatening illness? Surely one of the covid patients could have been released to go home. I have lost a lot of respect for the medical community since about a year ago. As has been stated an infinite amount of times on here - it's all about the money.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:17 am to the808bass
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You will want to close your eyes when the next real flu season hits.
That's an acute, annual issue that hospitals can plan for.
What we are dealing with now is in no way a flu season. When was the last "flu season" that led to intermittent shortages lasting months over an 18-month (or more) period? 1918?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:17 am to dred24
Well said.
I’m have heard the same many times over from friends in healthcare.
I’m have heard the same many times over from friends in healthcare.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:17 am to rattlebucket
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Is healthcare a right or not, libs?
It's not.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:17 am to rattlebucket
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Is healthcare a right or not, libs?
He's arguing you don't deserve health care if someone vaccinated needs it.
That's fricking retarded and right out of the authoritarian playbook.
Covid created so many progressives.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:18 am to Homesick Tiger
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it's all about the money.
It does make one wonder if hospitals are admitting patients that may not be critical just to bump their numbers up.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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Is healthcare a right or not, libs?
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It's not.
Right. you believe its a moral imperative. Those who "deserve" it should be treated ahead of those who don't.
Pure progressivism.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He's arguing you don't deserve health care if someone vaccinated needs it.
No I'm saying that if you're unvaccinated and you take up a bed that leads to a person without covid being denied service, you bear personal responsibility for that.
Quote me where I said that healthcare should be denied to an unvaccinated person.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Right. you believe its a moral imperative
Nope. It's a service.
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Those who "deserve" it should be treated ahead of those who don't.
I know fall is around the corner but that's a huge straw man for mid-September.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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Nope. It's a service.
Wrong. You're making value judgements. thats a limited service
Youre playing right into the old morality playbook. Didn't take much to get you there.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
Who bears that responsibility when It’s a vaccinated patient taking up a bed?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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articulate rational educated
You have the gall to post this after that pathetic fear mongering op
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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I know fall is around the corner but that's a huge straw man for mid-September.
"for the good of society."
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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but this is a long-term event that is in no way random. that argument is gone now, too.
Yes. The normal referral patterns of the hospital were likely disrupted and they hadn’t bothered to plan for that eventuality. That’s not the fault of the unvaccinated.
It has been months and the hospital didn’t have a plan. Embarrassing for them. And then they sloughed off the burden onto 43 other hospitals that received an electronic referral.
Was the Meridian hospital the first one to respond to the referral and the social worker closed the file? I would put the odds at somewhere around 80%.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
If you believe this story then you haven’t been paying attention - this is another 100 made up bs story
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Wrong. You're making value judgements. thats a limited service
What does this even mean?
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Youre playing right into the old morality playbook.
I'm discussing personal responsibility
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:24 am to Open Your Eyes
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articulate rational educated
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You have the gall to post this after that pathetic fear mongering op
Exactly.
I'm vaccinated. Don't give a frick if there are no beds available.
This is just to shame those who aren't vaccinated, right out of the left wing authoritarian playbook.
SFP was a liberal, became libertarian, now is flipping back to progressive.
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