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re: Calm Down Liberals - No one is coming for your abortions
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:56 pm to Flats
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:56 pm to Flats
quote:I've personally witnessed the transition several times.
I’m not saying all gays do it, but it’s pretty common.
Person you've known for years. Always spoke like a normal human being.
Comes out as gay.
Suddenly they make Richard Simmons look like a Gladiator. COMPLETE act
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:57 pm to ShortyRob
quote:fighting for the right to abort, since that’s a right Americans currently have, is a conservative position trying to keep the status quo.
you definitely have to be a terrible person to fight for the right to do it.
It would take a change in laws for some Americans to not have the right to abort.
quote:
If they ever figure out how to test in utero for the possibility of being gay there will certainly be a massive movement against abortions from the left.
That’s when they use the media to make gay the thing to be… that way there will still be abortion for others and babies with a gay gene won’t be such
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:58 pm to oklahogjr
quote:Oh pahfreakinlease.
it's all right there in the statement "the gay gene". it's not the gay Gene(s) or the gay genetic markers..... it's a singular noun that is very different from the statements information volvagia and myself have pointed to on the subject.
The point the poster was making is if they're ever able to test in any way for the likelihood of being gay in utero, the left will have a sudden come to Jesus moment on abortion
AND YOU ALL KNOW IT
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:00 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Oh pahfreakinlease.
The point the poster was making is if they're ever able to test in any way for the likelihood of being gay in utero, the left will have a sudden come to Jesus moment on abortion
AND YOU ALL KNOW IT
This
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:50 am to Bulldogblitz
My personal belief is that life does not begin at conception. The potential for life begins at conception but that is not the same thing. A lot can happen between when something goes in and something comes out. You can't know whether or not someone who has an abortion wouldn't have had a miscarriage had they decided differently. Also there is a difference between life and a life. You can argue that life begins when a heartbeat is detected. Whatever, my point of view is that a life begins when that life has suffienctly developed circulatory, respiratory, and digestive systems to a point that it is not dependent upon being attached to a tube that supplies all of these things via the mother. Then it is a separate life from the mother's. Until then it is part of the mother because if the mother doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. That's the pro-choice part of me.
Here is the pro-life part of me. Just because I believe all of the above to be true does not mean that your argument that "being anti-abortion means you are anti-women" makes any sense. So you are telling me that being against a medical procedure that has resulted in millions of women never being born is being anti-women. Are you sure you don't want to think about this a little more?
I've never figured out how to make a consistent argument one way or the other on the subject so I'm fairly whatever about it. I feel it shouldn't be used as a get out of a pregnancy free card but there are a lot of circumstances that fall under a case by case basis for me. What about expectant mothers who are drug addicts? What about people who know they are frick ups and can not handle any meaningful responsibility? Is it fair to dump a child into that environment? I know people will say you can always give the kid up for adoption. I've never understood how you always hear that there are waiting lists of people who have been waiting years to adopt children but their are also orphanages full of children waiting to be adopted. If you believe in the concept of supply and demand then both of those things should not be happening at the same time. I would be more swayed by the adoption angle if there was some kind of guarantee that every one of these unwanted pregnancies would end with an adoption as soon as the real mother gives birth but that does not seem to happen.
The whole issue seems like it tastes like a shite sandwich no matter where I bite into it from. I guess that is why it has never seemed like a particularly vital issue for me to concern myself with compared to other issues of the day.
Here is the pro-life part of me. Just because I believe all of the above to be true does not mean that your argument that "being anti-abortion means you are anti-women" makes any sense. So you are telling me that being against a medical procedure that has resulted in millions of women never being born is being anti-women. Are you sure you don't want to think about this a little more?
I've never figured out how to make a consistent argument one way or the other on the subject so I'm fairly whatever about it. I feel it shouldn't be used as a get out of a pregnancy free card but there are a lot of circumstances that fall under a case by case basis for me. What about expectant mothers who are drug addicts? What about people who know they are frick ups and can not handle any meaningful responsibility? Is it fair to dump a child into that environment? I know people will say you can always give the kid up for adoption. I've never understood how you always hear that there are waiting lists of people who have been waiting years to adopt children but their are also orphanages full of children waiting to be adopted. If you believe in the concept of supply and demand then both of those things should not be happening at the same time. I would be more swayed by the adoption angle if there was some kind of guarantee that every one of these unwanted pregnancies would end with an adoption as soon as the real mother gives birth but that does not seem to happen.
The whole issue seems like it tastes like a shite sandwich no matter where I bite into it from. I guess that is why it has never seemed like a particularly vital issue for me to concern myself with compared to other issues of the day.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 5:51 am to oklahogjr
I don't know if there's a gay gene or not. I do know that the sissies I knew coming up had absentee fathers. I'm not saying that having no man around will make an infant a queer, but i think there's some sort of male infant identifying with mama at play.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:46 am to chalmetteowl
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lot of women don’t even know that they’re pregnant at 6 weeks
What rape victims aren't getting tested after the rape? Are they really waiting for their bodies to show signs of pregnancy before worrying about it?
Most pregnancy tests can find out if a woman is pregnant, after 10 days. This bill gives around 45 days after the rape, to figure out if the woman is pregnant.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:56 am to ShortyRob
quote:
You literally just described basically every human personality characteristic......ever.
Alas, we don't create protected groups for such things.
Correct, and I agree.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:04 am to tilco
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I’m fine with abortions. Most people who get them don’t vote like me.
Yep
Just think how many more black and browns there would be in this world without it…
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:38 am to oklahogjr
So you were born gay or chose it?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:41 am to Bulldogblitz
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You know how abortion will be stopped....when research is done showing there is a gay gene and it can be tested for during pregnancy
I was saying this years ago…..boy those pro slaughter people sho got miffed when I dropped that on their azzes…lol!
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:43 am to 88Wildcat
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My personal belief is that life does not begin at conception. The potential for life begins at conception but that is not the same thing. A lot can happen between when something goes in and something comes out. You can't know whether or not someone who has an abortion wouldn't have had a miscarriage had they decided differently
You thought this sounded logical? You can't know the baby won't die at 3 months old have they decided differently. What's that got to do with anything
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:47 am to oklahogjr
I’ve always wondered what the scientific reason why some people are like this, because it does go against everything we see in nature. Even transgenderism. I mean, what’s actually going on here? Is reincarnation real and they were a woman in a former life? I have these crazy thoughts in my head trying to understand it. I’m talking about the true transgenders, not the school aged kids deciding to do it in groups of 2-3 just because. There has to be some explainable reason behind all of this.
I got this former life thought when I did a deep dive in reincarnation in kids. This is a thing. Apparently, kids from ages 2-6 remember former lives in great detail. The former ww2 case of a guy dying over Japan is probably the most famous. Some guy at the university of Virginia has been studying this for decades. It’s truly baffling and interesting.
I got this former life thought when I did a deep dive in reincarnation in kids. This is a thing. Apparently, kids from ages 2-6 remember former lives in great detail. The former ww2 case of a guy dying over Japan is probably the most famous. Some guy at the university of Virginia has been studying this for decades. It’s truly baffling and interesting.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:54 am to xxTIMMYxx
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because it does go against everything we see in nature. Even transgenderism
I don't think it goes against everything in nature. There are definitely animals that like sex with same sex. And there are definitely hermaphrodites and weird gender fluid animals out there too.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:56 am to ShortyRob
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The point the poster was making is if they're ever able to test in any way for the likelihood of being gay in utero, the left will have a sudden come to Jesus moment on abortion
Doubtful. I don't really care the reasons for abortion so long as the choice exists. It's someone's personal choice.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:27 pm to oklahogjr
quote:
Robert sapulsky
Why do y'all Marxists always roll with the "sky's"?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 12:44 pm to 88Wildcat
quote:
My personal belief is that life does not begin at conception. The potential for life begins at conception but that is not the same thing.
Then when is it? Birth canal? Viability? Because one day in the future, day 1 in utero will be viable.
The fact is, your personal belief is most definitely wrong but neither side has the ability to prove such a thing.
I will err on the side of caution and not killing what could potentially be a human life, baby, whatever you want to call it.
My risk of being wrong is an inconvenience to a mother ( although they still have plenty of options to not be so inconvenienced. And many times those situations work out as a positive in life)
Your risk of being wrong is murdering the most innocent life we have on this planet
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:50 pm to 88Wildcat
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My personal belief is that life does not begin at conception. The potential for life begins at conception but that is not the same thing. A lot can happen between when something goes in and something comes out. You can't know whether or not someone who has an abortion wouldn't have had a miscarriage had they decided differently.
Human life begins at conception and continues on a continuum through birth until physical death.
Sometimes life is ended in the mother’s womb spontaneously by a miscarriage, or intentionally by means of abortion.
Or a car crash, or a fatal fire, or a gunshot.
Or the infant dies of crib death, leukemia or a horrible accident.
Or the football player dies of heat stroke or his sister or brother dies overseas by a terrorists ID.
Or a middle aged father of three dies of a heart attack or a plant explosion.
Or grandma dies sitting in front of her TV and her husband of 60 years dies a year later quietly in his sleep of weariness and loneliness.
Each of those lives ended as they did, when they did, and each began at conception. There’s no distinction between human life and a human life.
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my point of view is that a life begins when that life has suffienctly developed circulatory, respiratory, and digestive systems to a point that it is not dependent upon being attached to a tube that supplies all of these things via the mother. Then it is a separate life from the mother's. Until then it is part of the mother because if the mother doesn't exist, it doesn't exist.
By that thinking until the infant can sit up, make it’s breakfast and change itself, and drive itself to the pediatrician it’s fair game for the abortion ghouls.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:13 pm to SportTiger1
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Then when is it? Birth canal? Viability? Because one day in the future, day 1 in utero will be viable.
I defined where I believe a life begins later on in that post. If it is not capable of surviving without being attached to an umbilical cord it is not a separate life from the mother.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:20 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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By that thinking until the infant can sit up, make it’s breakfast and change itself, and drive itself to the pediatrician it’s fair game for the abortion ghouls.
No that is not anything at all what my thinking is like. Can it breathe by itself? Does it's heart circulate enough blood for it to survive without additional blood being circulated by the mother? Can it digest food on it's own, even if that food is only milk and baby food? Those are the parameters I am using. Sitting up, making breakfast, and changing itself has nothing to do with those parameters. In order for it to be a separate life from the mother it has to have some kind of degree of independence to it. Those are the lowest bars of independence I can think of to classify it as a unique and separate life of it's own and not part of the mother that is developing into a separate life but has not got there yet.
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