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re: Calm Down Liberals - No one is coming for your abortions

Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:11 am to
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:11 am to
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Bacteria do not give birth so the question is irrelevant.

I may have missed your answer somewhere, but my question based on your comment above - so you’re belief is the fetus become a human being at about 6 months into the pregnancy?
Posted by BradPitt
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:56 am to
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I’m fine with abortions. Most people who get them don’t vote like me.


This. Every time a liberal feminist aborts xer fetus, an angel gets its wings.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:03 am to
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It's a medical procedure that kills a human being every time.


FIFY
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:04 am to
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So slavery should still be legal?


According to muslims, yes it should...
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:22 am to
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According to muslims, yes it should...

Jesus was also a fan of slavery. He certainly didn't label it immoral.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:02 am to
What a fricked up whataboutism.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:17 am to
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Jesus was also a fan of slavery. He certainly didn't label it immoral.
Perhaps you should read what Jesus said and taught and compare that to what goes on in your typical forced chattel slavery arrangement and see if those two things are compatible. Slavery within the context of the NT writers wasn’t exactly the same thing as what we find in the blockbuster movies about American slavery.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:52 am to
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Perhaps you should read what Jesus said and taught and compare that to what goes on in your typical forced chattel slavery arrangement and see if those two things are compatible. Slavery within the context of the NT writers wasn’t exactly the same thing as what we find in the blockbuster movies about American slavery.


I'm ok with saying all slavery is wrong. Why wasn't Jesus? We can argue nuance and say well sure Jesus was all about treating slaves better..... It sure seems like he would have preached against the entire construct if he didn't want slavery. He had no problem preaching against and even physically lashing out at established practices he found immoral.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:02 am to
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I'm ok with saying all slavery is wrong.
First, what standard are you using to say that all slavery is [objectively] wrong?

Second, not all slavery is [objectively] wrong. The slavery most commonly practiced in Israel in the Bible was not chattel slavery that we think about today. It was more like indentured servitude, used to pay off debts or to provide for the needs of the impoverished who would voluntarily offer themselves as slaves to be cared for by their masters. The slaves had rights, as well.

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Why wasn't Jesus? We can argue nuance and say well sure Jesus was all about treating slaves better..... It sure seems like he would have preached against the entire construct if he didn't want slavery. He had no problem preaching against and even physically lashing out at established practices he found immoral.
Because of the type of slavery that was commonly practiced in Israel at that time. We all have to be careful about projecting our own understanding on to cultures throughout history because they didn't have the same context as we do.

Like I said, the slavery that Jesus and the NT writers were in contact with wasn't the same kind of slavery that we're most familiar with. It had its purposes and benefits to society, including the slaves at the time, and it wasn't something to condemn as outright immoral for that reason.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:05 am to
Now do islam and mohammed.....go ahead....
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