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re: Coworker got the Moderna shots in February
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:39 am to League Champs
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:39 am to League Champs
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With the gene therapy of these mRNA shots, there is no triggering of the memory cells to ward off future exposures.
There is SUPPOSED to be
Oversimplified explanation: So the mRNA is transcribed within the cell creating a foreign protein that triggers the cell to notify helper T cells into action creating B cells from Plasma cells and cytotoxic T Cells from Memory T cells. Once this happens antibodies are sent out in response.
I think what is happening is the proteins being transcribed aren’t correct creating weak antibodies from the B cells with a slightly incorrect confirmation on their variable ends
This leads to the antibodies, when created after being exposed to COVID being hijacked into replication
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 10:43 am
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:39 am to Tigerroc
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Also, the warp speed Pres T was referring to caught Pharma off guard; therefore, the first 6 months of ppl being vax’d got a saline injection only. Pharma was not ready.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:39 am to tiggerthetooth
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This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 11:10 am
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:43 am to deltaland
The covid antibody test is garbage.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:43 am to OccamsStubble
Then why the need for booster shots?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:44 am to League Champs
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The MRNA shots do not create lifelong memory B cells.
Please post evidence of this. May be accurate, but I’ve never seen it. I also cannot imagine how your B cell immunity would differentiate between a antibody response to a viral particle and an antibody response to the virus itself.
Our immune system creates antibody responses to a host of antigens, both viral and otherwise, with resultant B cell memory
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:44 am to Eli Goldfinger
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The covid antibody test is garbage.
All Covid tests are garbage. PCR. Rapid. Antigen.
All garbage. I wonder why that is?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:44 am to deltaland
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Her and her husband both. This weekend they went to get the antibody test and neither of them have any Covid antibodies. 6 months and the vaccine is completely worthless
This is what I keep posting about. If the viral mRNA is destroyed before it’s translated it’s the equivalent of being unvaccinated. This is the hurdle these vaccines have always faced. You could potentially have millions of people walking around thinking they are fully vaccinated and yet they are just as much at risk as everyone else because their bodies never produced any spike proteins
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:44 am to Supravol22
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Post your medical degree since you know so much about how vaccines work
Let me know when I can help.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:46 am to MandevilleMike
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Then why the need for booster shots?
Your questions suggests you think I believe we do. I don’t believe we need booster shots.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:49 am to deltaland
quote:your knowledge of these phony vaccines is worthless.
. This weekend they went to get the antibody test and neither of them have any Covid antibodies. 6 months and the vaccine is completely worthless
quote:they're rising bc the vaccines are not vaccines and therefore don't work
This is why positive cases are rising.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:51 am to OccamsStubble
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You don’t have antibodies for smallpox either. Does that concern you?
How many times must it be pointed out that antibodies ALWAYS disappear after a vaccination.
Those that trust the CDC should probably believe the CDC that protection lasts about 8 months.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:52 am to Big Scrub TX
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Just STFU and get back to subsidized fish farming will you.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:54 am to OccamsStubble
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How many times must it be pointed out that antibodies ALWAYS disappear after a vaccination.
I still have my natural infection antibodies 8 months later.
frick your pussy vaccine
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:55 am to theunknownknight
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I am not a vaccine priest so don’t take this as defending it…but a person could get a vaccine and not have antibodies after 6 months. That should be expected actually.
Right. There are the immediate antibodies, but long-term it is the ability memory T and B cells to produce the antibodies in the future that matter long-term.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:57 am to Supravol22
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Post your medical degree since you know so much about how vaccines work
FWIW, this is actually a dumber post than the original about the antibodies. Under this premise, there would be virtually no need for this message board.
Post your Power 5 or NFL coaching badge to comment on football.
Let's see your SAG card before you comment on the TV /Movie board.
No comments on the Home/Garden board unless you're a fully licensed contractor or horticulturalist.
Obviously no commenting on politics unless you're an elected official or some sort.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:57 am to DarthRebel
Good. You probably have them because they pop up every time you’re reinfected, and kill the virus.
When you go through a period where you are not exposed, the antibodies will cycle out. Your memory Bs will kick in and produce ore when the virus reappears.
This is the best of all worlds, and why only the old, or sick, or both should consider what’s being called a vaccine
When you go through a period where you are not exposed, the antibodies will cycle out. Your memory Bs will kick in and produce ore when the virus reappears.
This is the best of all worlds, and why only the old, or sick, or both should consider what’s being called a vaccine
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:07 am to OccamsStubble
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Good. You probably have them because they pop up every time you’re reinfected, and kill the virus.
Thus the pussy vaccine. It is weak, with risky side effects.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:10 am to deltaland
Antibodies do not stay for life. T-cell immunity is the bodies ability to make more if the body sees the foreign virus in the future.
Some for natural immunity…
Some for natural immunity…
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:17 am to deltaland
Hopefully all those who got the vaccines like myself still have T cell killer lymphocytes which will recognize the spike proteins.
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