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Why do people keep calling it a vaccine?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:06 pm
A vaccine (legal definition) has either attenuated (weakened) or dead virus in it, designed to force the body to create antibodies to the virus.

This jab doesn’t.

This experimental jab reprograms your MRNA to produce spike protein (which is pathogenic priming) that replicates the virus and eliminates any natural immunity you would normally develop.

That means any new infection (variant) you get would cause a cytokine storm (antibody dependent enhancement), to which your immune system cannot respond.

I’ll keep my natural God-created immune response, thank you.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:09 pm to
And Amen
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:10 pm to
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A vaccine (legal definition) has either attenuated (weakened) or dead virus in it


Cite?
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9455 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:11 pm to
Right. I call it an experimental serum. It's not a vaccine.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10751 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:11 pm to
In other words, the “vaccine” is designed to breed the variants and keep the virus going. The vaccinated are the people spreading the bioweapon. The vaccinated are the ones to blame.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59074 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:12 pm to
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It's not a vaccine.


Why not?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:12 pm to
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Cite?


I'll go: every FDA approved vaccine in the history of the FDA. And vaccines.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:13 pm to
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Right. I call it an experimental serum. It's not a vaccine.


Clever. Did you pick this up in one of your great uncles chain emails?
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10751 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:14 pm to
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Why not?



A vaccine by definition has either an attenuated (weakened) virus or a dead virus in it to stimulate the body to create antibodies against it. This doesn’t do/have either.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59074 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:14 pm to
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I'll go: every FDA approved vaccine in the history of the FDA. And vaccines.



That’s kind of circular though.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59074 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:15 pm to
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A vaccine by definition has either an attenuated (weakened) virus or a dead virus in it to stimulate the body to create antibodies against it.


Cite?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14990 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:15 pm to
Cambridge definition:
quote:

a substance that is put into the body of a person or animal to protect them from a disease by causing them to produce antibodies



Merriam Webster definition:
quote:

a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease




CDC definition:
quote:

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.



I am not certain that using the body’s cells to produce the antigen for immunity falls outside of any of these definitions. May I ask what dictionary your legal definition is coming from?
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:16 pm to

When you edit genes to alter their function it is gene therapy. Change my mind lol, you can't...

In the last 12 months a lot of those definitions have been conveniently updated. Don't be lazy and look up Dr. Robert Malone, he invented the mRNA tech. See what he has to say about the mRNA vaccine. Ki

Kind of like Kary Mullis and the qPCR tests not being viable for diagnostics. Ask him, of wait, he died in August 2019...



I have 30+ years experience working in laboratories, 20+ years of that is in molecular biology and biochemistry, specifically with qPCR and other relevant technologies.

This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59074 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:17 pm to
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When you edit genes to alter their function it is gene therapy. Change my mind lol, you can't...

I have 30+ years experience working in laboratories, 20+ years of that is in molecular biology and biochemistry, specifically with qPCR and other relevant technologies.


‘I’m impressed, but the definition that you cited doesn’t say what you think it says.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10751 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:18 pm to
CDC

Here you go.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21789 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:18 pm to
Is the Johnson and Johnson vaccine an MRNA vaccine?
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:18 pm to
And what Facebook genius dreamed that up? There's a million excuses for being a pussy moron.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:19 pm to
After reading this thread, I am convinced that imbecility is a far more dangerous threat to mankind than Covid ever could be.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14990 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:20 pm to
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When you edit genes to alter their function it is gene therapy.



The vaccine does not alter genes. The vaccine uses your body’s ability to produce proteins to produce the necessary antigen required for immune response. The mRNA, much like your own mRNA and pathogenic viral mRNA, degrades fairly rapidly. It isn’t a retrovirus, DNA splicing, CRISPR-like insertion.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:21 pm to
Its very difficult for complacent individuals to venture outside of their comfort zone, critical thinking is not everyone's strong point
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