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re: Why do people keep calling it a vaccine?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:32 pm to
Never said it was, but it meaningless to say it without any skin in the game. It certainly isn't safe, people are dying from it.
Posted by IceburgSlim
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:35 pm to
“It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words."

- George Orwell
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68279 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:39 pm to
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The J&J shot is a direct injection of the spike protein
This is completely wrong. You should refrain from talking about vaccines. You are ignorant.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68279 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:43 pm to
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. It certainly isn't safe, people are dying from it.
Is this where you cite the bullshite from VAERS?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:46 pm to
Are you saying g nobody has died from it and or serious reactions? It's not safe, it just a matter of how unsafe it is.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68279 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:50 pm to
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Are you saying g nobody has died from it and or serious reactions? It's not safe, it just a matter of how unsafe it is
No, but when you vaccinate 163,000,000 people there are bound to be a few thousand reports of issues. It is as safe as most meds. All meds and vitamins etc. have side effects. For the vaccine, there are relatively few.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:53 pm to
These vaccines are experimental compounds that use “synthetic messenger RNA (mRNA)”
housed in fat cells. In 2005 an animal study was done with SARS-CoV-1 mRNA vaccines on
ferrets. Two doses were administered in the same manner as the SARS-CoV-2, aka, COVID19 mRNA Vaccines. The ferrets showed no adverse reaction and seemed to be completely
healthy. After some time, the ferrets were exposed to the SARS-CoV-1 coronavirus in the
wild. The ferrets died. The mRNA Vaccine had caused a cytokine storm, a fatal cascade of
exaggerated immune responses. The SARS-CoV-1 vaccines was not further developed.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:53 pm to
It's still unsafe which is why they have all warnings and notices. It's a matter of how unsafe it is.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:54 pm to
So shouldn’t we see mass amounts of hospitalizations and deaths from vaccinated people?
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10720 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:56 pm to
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No, but when you vaccinate 163,000,000 people there are bound to be a few thousand reports of issues. It is as safe as most meds. All meds and vitamins etc. have side effects. For the vaccine, there are relatively few.


So far. Although the swine flu vax was pulled when it reached 30 something deaths, I’ll grant you the premise that this one is a small percentage to this point.

However, there were no long term trials with this vax, and every prior coronavirus vax long term trial resulted in all the ferrets dying. I’m not interested in being part of that human trial.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:58 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68279 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:58 pm to
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However, there were no long term trials with this vax, and every prior coronavirus vax long term trials resulted in all the ferrets dying. I’m not interested in being part of that human trial
I suppose I'm dead then.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10720 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:59 pm to
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suppose I'm dead then.


I truly hope not. It’s just not a chance I want to take.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32791 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:00 am to
“Cytokine storm” must have been mentioned in a recent quack YouTube video, I’m seeing it pop up more in anti-vax propaganda.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:03 am to
If your not in the categories of those likely impacted by covid, it seems like an unnecessary risk. Each his own.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10720 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:03 am to
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Cytokine storm” must have been mentioned in a recent quack YouTube video, I’m seeing it pop up more in anti-vax propaganda.


I’m not sure about that, unless it’s a reference to a potential antibody dependent enhancement. Either way, there are plenty of reasons not to trust THIS thing they’re calling a vaccine (I’ve got no problem with traditional vaccines). AdE, graphine oxide, luciferase, aborted fetal tissue, plenty of other reasons not to trust this thing.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 12:08 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68279 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:04 am to
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It's still unsafe which is why they have all warnings and notices. It's a matter of how unsafe it is
Every medicine on the market has warnings, some black box as well. People still benefit from them by the hundreds of millions. Most of the bedrock meds like insulin, ACE inhibitors, NSAIDS and statins have more side effects than the vaccine, but they still keep grandma and grandpa comfortably alive and kicking.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68279 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:06 am to
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If your not in the categories of those likely impacted by covid, it seems like an unnecessary risk. Each his own
Indont care if you take it or not. But if you're 60+ it is a really good idea.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:07 am to
I never said otherwise. Still doesn't make them safe, just a matter of how unsafe the are.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:10 am to
I'm not sure about that, but let me know when all those 60+ yo start kicking the bucket in India. The bodies should be piling up. Lol
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68279 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:16 am to
I wouldn't trust a third world country to report much. And bodies won't pile up but some can avoid the pile with the vaccine.
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