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re: Why do people keep calling it a vaccine?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31421 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

We’re discussing this asinine talking point of whether it is a “vaccine”.


I guess in the words of Dr. Gump, vaccines are what vaccines do.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:44 pm
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:35 pm to
there not supposed to be...

but maybe it can alter gene expression, a little early to tell

but let's go ahead a force vaccinate everyone and just deal with the funky shite later
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:39 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:42 pm to
Bobby you can't speak about the 100+ million prior infections and recovery. You have to remember they already took the jab, and they can't take it back.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66324 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

but maybe it can alter gene expression, a little early to tell


How?

You all always talk about being free thinkers and doing your research.

What mechanism are you concerned about?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:52 pm
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:51 pm to
Is this accurate?





Or this??

Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:55 pm to
The question is, can you trust any of it? Also. that's only short term issues.

Good luck, everyone is on their own.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68004 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:01 pm to
quote:


but maybe it can alter gene expression, a little early to tell
It is mRNA, it doesn't make it into the nucleus to do anything to DNA. It can't.
quote:


but let's go ahead a force vaccinate everyone and just deal with the funky shite later
I don't support forced vaccinations. In fact, I don't care if you are vaccinated or not, I simply respond to pablum spewed about the vaccine on occasion.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87336 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:06 pm to
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How did the human trials go?


inconclusive

data still being generated

how do you feel today?
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:07 pm to
well let's just venture out on a limb and consider we may not understand everything and I'll admit it's outside of current biological dogma, but it is some new tech that we don't understand long term effects. But there is some preliminary research suggesting through the use of retrotransposon pathways perhaps that there exists a viable cellular pathway where pieces of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. It opens up the possibility and honestly could be beneficial down the road for other therapies but its early, too early to be forcing vaccinations at this point. Granted, I don't have a PhD...
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15495 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:09 pm to
Johnson and Johnson is a standard vaccine, not MRNA, whats your excuse for that?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:10 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

how do you feel today?


Fantastic.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80121 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:13 pm to
I understand about 30% of the biology you guys are talking about but I do sell words for a living and this:

quote:

and I'll admit it's outside of current biological dogma, but it is some new tech that we don't understand long term effects.


Feels like a crawfish. Is that a crawfish? What’s going on here?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68004 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:18 pm to
He is spewing bullshite.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87336 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:20 pm to
the effects the vaccines have on Sars-Covid2 for the majority are positives with some glaring negatives

however, the long term effects of this on the immune system are unknown, doesnt mean good or bad, just unknown

all they can say is what they think will happen, the vaccinated are the hard data
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80121 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:22 pm to
I understand that as a general principle, but this “outside of current biological dogma” stuff is a fancy way of saying “I’m literally making shite up” about the vaccine altering our DNA.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5791 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:23 pm to
SO, is the Johnson and Johnson vaccine safe per this statement of fact?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:26 pm to
It's so safe they have no or limited liability if it isn't. Lol

Good luck.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68004 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:28 pm to
That isn't unique to this vaccine.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10694 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:28 pm to
The J&J shot is a direct injection of the spike protein. The MRNA shots are injections that program your body to create spike proteins.

Either way, the spike protein itself (S1) is pathogenic, but it’s not the SARS-COV-2 virus. It’s a simulated nano particle created to replicate the pattern of the virus. I don’t trust any of them.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87336 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

understand that as a general principle, but this “outside of current biological dogma” stuff is a fancy way of saying “I’m literally making shite up” about the vaccine altering our DNA.


from what I understand the vaccines dont alter dna, they do however leave a viral fingerprint on your immune system that creates a giant question mark for whatever new variant the bats shite and pigs eat in china that enters the populace

so the vaccinated are on an unending series of booster shots for the rest of their lives should they so choose to maintain the protocols
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