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re: Why do people keep calling it a vaccine?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58800 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:22 pm to
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Here you go.


The same CDC that talks about the COVID-19 vaccine? Lol.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58800 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:23 pm to
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Its very difficult for complacent individuals to venture outside of their comfort zone, critical thinking is not everyone's strong point


Especially for people who cite definitions that don’t say what they think they say.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:24 pm to
Crisper cas9 is a geneome editing techniqe
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25365 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:25 pm to
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The vaccine does not alter genes.


Good luck with this group.

If some of them were any less intelligent, you’d have to water them twice a week.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:25 pm to
By your definition, subunit, polysaccharide, and toxoid vaccines wouldn't be regarded as vaccines. It is so fricking stupid.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:25 pm to
keep on those small details sheep
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:26 pm to
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Crisper cas9 is a geneome editing techniqe



You think this mRNA vaccine has the ability to modify genes through Crispr? My god, you really think molecular biology is more advanced than it is.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31506 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:27 pm to
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That’s kind of circular though.


No, it's a definition of a term that has developed through extensive research, usage, publication, clinical practice etc. What's circular is changing the definition of something so well established, to fit a political agenda.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10722 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:27 pm to
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The same CDC that talks about the COVID-19 vaccine? Lol.


Are you arguing with me or agreeing with me? The fact that the “vaccine” is not FDA approved (except under an emergency use authorization only) should give you pause.

That means long term clinical trials haven’t been performed. It means that the current “vaccinated” people ARE the trials.

I hope you’re ok with being part of a medical experiment like the Jews in WW2.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:28 pm to
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I am convinced that imbecility is a far more dangerous threat to mankind than Covid ever could be.



The same posters who “know” that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines “alter your DNA” probably had to look up the term imbecility.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58800 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:28 pm to
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keep on those small details sheep


Meh. If you want to talk about the efficacy of the vaccine, that’s another discussion. We’re discussing this asinine talking point of whether it is a “vaccine”.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:29 pm to
Lazy muther frickers, good night!

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Scientists have long sought the ability to control and modify DNA—the code of life. A gene editing technology known as CRISPR-Cas9 offers the potential for substantial improvement over other gene editing technologies in that it is simple to use and inexpensive and has a relatively high degree of precision and efficiency. These characteristics have led many in the scientific and business communities to assert that CRISPR-Cas9 will lead to groundbreaking advances in many fields, including agriculture


CRISPER-Cas9
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:32 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:30 pm to
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No, it's a definition of a term that has developed through extensive research, usage, publication, clinical practice etc. What's circular is changing the definition of something so well established, to fit a political agenda.



But every FDA approved vaccine isn't delineated along 'attenuated or dead' as the OP implies.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66582 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:32 pm to
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No, it's a definition of a term that has developed through extensive research, usage, publication, clinical practice etc. What's circular is changing the definition of something so well established, to fit a political agenda.


It’s called innovation. Vaccines have always been designed to produce an antigen that your body then reacts to. That reaction produced antibodies which helps you fight of the disease in the future.


The MRNA vaccine introduced the antigens in a different way, but the principle is the same.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63348 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:32 pm to
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A vaccine (legal definition) has either attenuated (weakened) or dead virus in it, designed to force the body to create antibodies to the virus.

This jab doesn’t.


Sure about that?

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Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses the more traditional virus-based technology.


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Instead of using mRNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a disabled adenovirus to deliver the instructions.


LINK
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25365 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:32 pm to
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Right. I call it an experimental serum. It's not a vaccine.


It’s a shame that we have neither the time nor the crayons to explain vaccines to someone like you.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10722 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:33 pm to
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But every FDA approved vaccine isn't delineated along 'attenuated or dead' as the OP implies.


The “vaccine” isn’t FDA approved. It’s got an emergency use authorization. Based on the fraudulent assumption that there is no treatment that works
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:33 pm to
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Lazy muther frickers, good night!



Motherfricker, I work with molecular stuff like this every day. The fundamental mistake you morons make is assuming everything in DNA is Mendelian. It's not straightforward, and there is no recombination method that is robust enough to use in humans in this delivery method.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58800 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:34 pm to
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The “vaccine” isn’t FDA approved. It’s got an emergency use authorization.


His statement went over your head.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:36 pm to
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The “vaccine” isn’t FDA approved. It’s got an emergency use authorization. Based on the fraudulent assumption that there is no treatment that works



Again, vaccinations, whether approved or not, aren't delineated along the lines specified in your OP.
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