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re: John Hopkins - NO Proof any child has died of Covid.

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:51 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68891 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:51 am to
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You’ve got doctors and nurses begging people to get vaccinated. But no. They’re all in on the conspiracy, too.



And ones not taking it.

Doctors have varying opinions on treatments for their very different patients.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:51 am to
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You’ve got doctors and nurses begging people to get vaccinated. But no. They’re all in on the conspiracy, too.

Almost everyone in this thread is vaccinated



I believe that's what would be called an inconvenient truth
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32718 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:52 am to
Intelligent post.

I wish everything wasn't so binary these days.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:52 am to
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That said, the "if you ignore the kids who had stuff other than covid, then no kids really died of covid" argument seems dishonest to me
I dont think thats the argument

I think the argument is this: there were only 400 covid deaths in the entire United states in pediatrics, and those mainly consisted of children with diseases as serious as leukemia

If you make polices for children on those stats, you are indeed a psychopath with no ability to process anything logically
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4946 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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Johns Hopkins


FIFY
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
46059 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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with healthy lifestyle changes being necessary in the long term.


It is really sad that no one is actually pushing a healthy lifestyle
Even small changes could be saving lives
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:55 am to
This is why I never post anymore. No one is changing the minds of others, and in the face of any evidence, you’ll argue to the contrary because it doesn’t fit your agenda. You stay in your echo chamber.

No one, including me, wants more lockdowns or mask mandates. I’m astute enough to realize it won’t help much and it’ll only negatively impact our economy as well as the mental health of many people. I want people who can be vaccinated to do so. And with 36% vaccination rates in Louisiana, I’m willing to bet that your assertion that “everyone in this thread is vaccinated” is untrue.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84297 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:55 am to
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This is why I never post anymore


Please get back to that.
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You stay in your echo chamber.



Do you have any actual responses to the criticisms of your posts?
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:55 am to
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No one (intelligent) is arguing that lots of totally healthy people are dropping dead only from COVID. The larger focus should be that lots of people do have comorbidities, and that's why a vaccine is a short term fix, with healthy lifestyle changes being necessary in the long term.


Yep. At least not in great numbers anyway. And that’s the truth for flu and any other number of diseases for which we have vaccines. If one is antivax for covid, then one should be antivax for all vaccines.

And if you are, I hope you get polio.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14810 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:56 am to
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These people are legit sociopaths. I’ve honestly erred on the side of “I don’t give a crap what people choose” for the past year. Guess I thought better of our society, the people of Louisiana (and so pro life except when it comes to this) and their moral obligation to make decisions outside of just “doesn’t affect me bro”, but that’s more of the selfish narcissistic attitude that prevails in today’s society.



Oh, frick off.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:56 am to
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No one is changing the minds of others, and in the face of any evidence
What evidence have you shown that even hints at the delta strain ripping through children?

We have all shown you empirical evidence covid is less deadly than the flu as it relates to pediatrics
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32718 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:57 am to
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No one is changing the minds of others, and in the face of any evidence, you’ll argue to the contrary because it doesn’t fit your agenda.


:3spidermen:
Posted by gadknot
Reality
Member since Jul 2005
37306 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:57 am to
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Well now there’s only 9, but that’s because one succumbed to covid.



dead kid crisis actor
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20512 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:59 am to
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Well now there’s only 9, but that’s because one succumbed to covid. But I’m sure that doesn’t count, you’ll need to see their autopsy report to believe it.


There’s been 0 Covid pediatric deaths in the US but you think all of a sudden there’s one now? Why is that? The Arkansas media tells you so?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39602 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:02 am to
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You are just full of shite, and you let emotion rule you


Hey man, her review of her little slice of heaven in Arkansas > than a nationwide review of every COVID case in kids.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:14 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79322 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:04 am to
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I think the argument is this: there were only 400 covid deaths in the entire United states in pediatrics, and those mainly consisted of children with diseases as serious as leukemia

If you make polices for children on those stats, you are indeed a psychopath with no ability to process anything logically


I'm not an anti-vax guy nor a COVID conspiracy theorist.

But RSV kills what, 500 kids a year? And in well over a year COVID has killed fewer than 400, many/virtually all of those kids who had serious underlying conditions. And we are/were in the middle of a major RSV spike that was putting pressure on pediatric hospitals.

But despite this, RSV got the local news "scary new spike in child illness" treatment for two days and then we went back to COVID hysteria.

People have gotten completely myopic about COVID and lost track of how we deal with normal illnesses that are, especially in the vaccination era, comparable in terms of death/severity. "There are 11 kids hospitalized!" is the story, not "well, how many kids are normally hospitalized with a virus going around, is this extremely abnormal?"
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15704 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:05 am to
Liberals don’t count fetuses as life. But if a 1 day old infant died from “Covid” they will report it nonstop.
It’s so stupid.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:05 am to
Its so sad

Local Fox did an interview at my wifes Peds clinic last week. They came to ask about "the new wave of children being extremely sick"

Head doctor did the interview and said since the start of covid over a year ago, they have sent a total of TWO kids to the ER. Since just last month, they have sent 11 kids to the ER for RSV

Doctor went on to say covid isnt effecting children in the community but RSV is and please understand that



Fox didnt air the interview. Go figures
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:06 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39602 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:07 am to
Let's not forget this strain of COVID is quite literally worldwide right now.

Where are they hiding all these tiny bodies?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23810 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:12 am to
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John Hopkins - NO Proof any child has died of Covid

It's actually an Opinion piece and not a report by "Johns Hopkins."

Nevertheless, there is a serious issue here with the apparent (obvious) ability of the child and adolescent population to fight off Covid more effectively than the adult and senior population. By now we should have enough data to adjust the public health response.

Also, if one of the primary reasons for masking at school and on-line learning is to protect the teachers and other adults in the system, then perhaps the more effective approach is to ensure that the adults are either vaccinated or sign waivers accepting the risk of working unvaccinated. Put the responsibility on the people most likely to require more extreme protection methods.
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