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Has college football basically slowly killed itself since Nebraska bolted for the Big Ten?

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:14 am
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21348 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:14 am
I don’t exactly blame them for what they did. It made sense at the time. In essence a lot of these individual decisions to move conferences or increase the teams competing for the championships have “made sense” financially as well as maybe to draw interest, but I feel like overall the piqued interest for a short time before becoming very stale.

More than a handful of big schools no longer play their primary rivals. Instead they’ve tried to force rivalries where there aren’t any. Instead of continuing literally sometimes a century of tradition. Then comes the championship format, it was exciting at first but has now become almost unwatchable in terms of its lack of competitiveness as well as its overall staleness.

It feels like college football finally went national with the BCS and maintained tons of its charm while crowning a true champion every year. Then Nebraska bolted and it’s slowly been sliding into the abyss since then. I guess technically Miami and Va Tech started this before it was cool but those were mostly new blood programs even with concentrated success like Miami.

I feel like if OU and UT come to the SEC it will be exciting for a few years and then quickly grow old because it just doesn’t have the historical roots in terms of rivalries and passion that our traditional rivalries have that it will start to smother.

Feels like to me college football has been chasing that almighty dollar the last 10 years and it’s lead it down a bad path. Although I get why those in charge have done it on an individual level and I don’t exactly blame them. I’m just disappointed with what the sport has become. It feels just not as fun anymore and very corporate.
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
7632 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:14 am to
Feels to me like the end game has always been 4, 16-team conference and this UT/OU news is just the next step in that direction? So I say no.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:15 am to
Ever since then, the Big 12 has been awful.
Just an atrocious conference
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:20 am to
You're not completely wrong, but

quote:

I feel like if OU and UT come to the SEC it will be exciting for a few years and then quickly grow old because it just doesn’t have the historical roots in terms of rivalries a


Adding UT to the SEC immediately reboots one of the most-played rivalry games in college football.

UT and TAMU have played more games against each other than any two other teams in the SEC, and that's without having played in 10 years.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45066 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Feels like to me college football has been chasing that almighty dollar the last 10 years and it’s lead it down a bad path. Although I get why those in charge have done it on an individual level and I don’t exactly blame them. I’m just disappointed with what the sport has become. It feels just not as fun anymore and very corporate.


Agree wholeheartedly with this. It feels more like minor league NFL than college football now and has lost a lot of its charm to me.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
6622 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:28 am to
It's slowly morphing into a sport that will consist of 30-40 'power teams' that will only play each other. This is what happens when you're only concerned about the playoff. You start trimming the fat to maximize profits. Why should ESPN be satisfied with 3 (that's a stretch) decent Alabama games on their network in a regular season when the Tide could be playing Oklahoma and Texas instead cupcake 1 and cupcake 2?

Raise a glass to the BCS era, the true golden age.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:53 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119479 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:33 am to
NIL will be the ultimate end.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3064 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:02 am to
Essentially everything that has happened makes sense if you assume that the people making the decisions care only about money, and everything else they say is BS.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30907 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:04 am to
I agree. And the blame lies solely with espn/texas.

Their longhorn network cut out every other big12 school.

I get it, they got paid, but it killed the big12.

Id take oklahoma and kick out missouri though.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10676 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:10 am to
Penn State announced they were joining the big ten in 1990 or so and ND rejected the Big Ten in 1998 or so. Those are the events that set things in motion.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27722 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:20 am to
Yep, but many on this board wanted that, begged for it and when the NIL kicks in and you see a wholesale money grab and, yes agents, oozing throughout the game with 3 rd year players sitting out waiting to go pro....you'll see this board high fiving itself because some LSU players get paid....and these posters think that somehow it will be good for LSU in the long run. Like maybe these players will kick into the TAF or Endowment instead of blowing it on hookers, blow, houses and cars
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65078 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

I guess technically Miami and Va Tech started this before it was cool but those were mostly new blood programs even with concentrated success like Miami.

That wasn't the first time bigger programs moved conferences. Arkansas and South Carolina did that in 1992 when they joined the SEC. The SouthWest conference completely disbanded in 1996. Georgia Tech left the SEC in 1964 and Tulane two years later. Both were strong programs at the time. Only 8 teams in the ACC are founding members, GA Tech joining in 1970 and FSU in 1991. Only 6 of the Big10 members are founding members. Indiana and Iowa joined a couple years later. Ohio State didn't join until 1912, Michigan St in 1950, and Penn State in 1990.

Conference realignment isn't a 21st century thing. It's been going on for basically the entire existence of the sport
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67210 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:26 pm to
Pretty much. There’s several big issues that I see destroying the sport:
1. Loss of traditional rivalries: conference realignment has been cool for allowing a lot of teams to get to play others that they weren’t used to seeing, but many lost historical rivalries in the process. College football, more than almost any other sports league, is defined by its rivalries. That’s the big draw, and the following annual rivalries are all no more as a result of last decade’s realignment:
Nebraska vs Mizzou
Kansas vs Mizzou
Kansas vs Nebraska
Stanford vs USC
Texas vs Texas A&M
Pitt vs West Virginia
Notre Dame vs Michigan St
Michigan vs Michigan St

2. Rules changes meant to combat CTE Lawsuits. While many like the high flying offenses, recent versions for rules like targeting, pass interference, defensive holding, crackback blocks, etc have changed the way the game is played significantly, allowing more games to be decided based on how officials call certain penalties. Many rules create a so-called “strike zone” for where defensive players can hit a ball carrier, and the rules change year to year. Are low hits good or bad this year? What about the mid section? Leading with the shoulders? Let’s ask the refs! They’ll probably have a different answer each game.

3. Unlimited transfers without sitting out. This is just dumb. CFB now has free-agency with talent having zero patience to sit behind veteran players and learn. Was the previous rule so unfair?

4. Name image and likeness is pandora’s box and could ruin the sport. All of the corruption in college sports basically just became legal and able to happen right in the open. Program boosters essential engage in bidding wars with endorsements for legitimate products. It’s like if the NFL paid all their players $40k/year and expected everyone to make up the rest in ad deals. With unlimited transfers and the ability to cash out with endorsements, players can legally and openly be bought away from competing.

5. Cost increases. Facilities and bribes cost money. Recruitment is expensive. To make the numbers work, major CFB programs have drastically raised prices, and in doing so, made their stadium environments far more tame and corporate. See, loud, angry, passionate a-holes just don’t have as much money as corporations do to “donate” money to a university or “business expense” tickets for entertaining clients. It’s essentially money laundering and tax fraud and it’s causing a bubble in college sports ticket prices which seems to be bursting.

6. PC Cancel Culture is destroying college traditions, and not just the ones that probably needed to die like hazing and panty raids. Mascot names, school songs, live mascots, nicknames, championship winning coaches, traditions that have existed for many decades, some over a century, are being called into question by folks who DGAF about college sports to begin with. It’s why Texas won’t play “The Eyes of Texas are Upon You”, Ole Miss no longer has Colonel Reb, LSU’s live bengal Tiger no longer comes to games to glare at the opposing team coming out of their locker room, Stanford’s band is banned from nearly every stadium (often including their own), etc. This kind of silliness takes away the pageantry of the game and tends to replace it with bland corporate nothingness until every program is essentially indistinguishable from every other team. This also has the added issue of absolutely hacking off major boosters and sponsors who care about the team, while putting programs in a bind between wealthy multinational advertisers who want one thing and local large donors who want something completely different. In the end, the fans nearly always lose.

7. Championship or bust mentality. This actually goes hand-in-hand with the corporatization of the sport. The more money someone spends on something, the more they begin to look at it like an investment requiring an ROI. Paying $30/ticket might be fine for .500 ball, but if you’re paying $230/ticket, suddenly, 7-5 just ain’t cutting it. Premium prices demand premium results. As the media has focused exclusively on the playoff race, so have fans, boosters, sponsors, and players. Bowls have become almost completely meaningless, and they were already exhibition games, so that says a lot.

8. Lack of parity. It becomes abundantly clear, early on, that fewer than 20 teams have any shot at a playoff appearance in a given year, and usually no more than 3 or 4 look capable of actually winning it all. Those numbers wouldn’t be bad in a 32 team league, but there’s over 120 FBS teams. There’s just not enough attention or parity in the current system to make it interesting for the overwhelming majority of teams. People get fatigued seeing Ohio St, Clemson, and Alabama in the playoffs every year. While there’s an obvious argument to be made that other teams need to “try getting good”, CFB really does have a serious issue here of haves vs have-nots. The rules actually are against the mid-majors, who have no chance at a title even if they win all of their games for 2 years in a row. It’s blatantly unfair, and everyone can see it. Hopefully, some of the proposed post-season changes happen, and it will help to chip away at the parity issues by allowing more teams to get the attention of the post season for recruiting purposes, and spread the talent in college football out more across the board.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75631 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:40 pm to
Pretty much agreed with all of your thoughts
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6999 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:51 pm to
Our system now is better than the BCS was.

2003 LSU vs USC never happened but would've with a playoff.

2004 Auburn got robbed

several USC teams from 2006-2008 would've given the SEC champs much better games than Ohio State and Oklahoma.

2007 Georgia was probably the hottest team in the country and was left out. They would've won a 4 team playoff.

2013 Alabama lost one top 5 road game on a miracle play and was forced to sit out

2014 Ohio State would've been completely out of the picture and the title would've been FSU vs Bama. Neither team even made it to the natty.

This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27722 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:12 pm to
I'm not sure this works out the rosy way the SEC and Big 10 thinks it will. The only way this works long term is getting the West Coast teams to sign on and create a super league as well
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3136 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 4:00 am to
One of the big and undervalued reasons why the SEC has completely taken over college football has been its ability to maintain traditional rivalries and conference intrigue while still expanding and accommodating the realities of the modern game. You still have all the camaraderie and passion from back before CFB went corporate and national.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1181 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:26 am to
Sooo college football now has

Players signing endorsement deals
Free agency
Only 30 teams playing each other

Sounds a lot like the nfl

I hate the nfl
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