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re: Legal battle over right-to-life of Lafayette man in vegetative state
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:22 pm to Allluvnohate
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:22 pm to Allluvnohate
Opinions/takeaway points:
A suicide attempt should always equal a DNR. It’s the purpose of the initial act (suicide), and anyone resuscitating is going against their wishes
If going thru a separation or divorce, make sure to designate a power of attorney who is not your estranged whore wife
If contemplating suicide attempt to get necessary rehab/detox, don’t do it in jail if it’s opiods. Maybe something life threatening like alcohol with seizures/delirium tremors, but not opioid withdrawal, which obviously sucks but is not life threatening.
Someone who says HBO will be effective three years out from an anoxic brain injury is a snake oil salesman who probably is trying to drum up business to pay off his hyperbaric oxygen chamber. It’s not like an ankle ulcer from pvd
Dr Phil still sucks
A suicide attempt should always equal a DNR. It’s the purpose of the initial act (suicide), and anyone resuscitating is going against their wishes
If going thru a separation or divorce, make sure to designate a power of attorney who is not your estranged whore wife
If contemplating suicide attempt to get necessary rehab/detox, don’t do it in jail if it’s opiods. Maybe something life threatening like alcohol with seizures/delirium tremors, but not opioid withdrawal, which obviously sucks but is not life threatening.
Someone who says HBO will be effective three years out from an anoxic brain injury is a snake oil salesman who probably is trying to drum up business to pay off his hyperbaric oxygen chamber. It’s not like an ankle ulcer from pvd
Dr Phil still sucks
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Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:23 pm to RazorBroncs
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And Josh literally told his mom he was going to commit suicide in jail beforehand.
That's what his mother said in the video clip of the Dr. Phil segment I watched. The mother's response was something like "do what you have to do". She said at the time that both she and the wife were in agreement that he should not be bailed out. She didn't mention anything about him sort of halfway attempting it to avoid detox. Alluv has not identified anyone to whom he made that statement.
I don't know that any of this matters with regard to the current situation, but it does bring doubt to some of the allegations being made here.
Josh is under a physician's care at the nursing home or so it has been said. What does that physician say? What do his nursing home records state?
Has the specialist Alluv says she apoke with reviewed all the medical records or was this just a conversation with Alluv's point of view given to the doctor? Seems odd that a doctor would commit to an opinion such as stated here just based on a conversation. Surely there were medical records provided and reviewed.
I'm not clicking on any tik toc links, but the few I looked at were not proof of anything one way or another.
Maybe a court will order Josh examined by a specialist who will actually provided an professional opinion. I'm not in the medical field, but he doesn't look alert at all to me. He looks empty and that's very sad for everyone.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:27 pm to Mr Clean
quote:
I’m glad that you found this thread. How did you come across it?
I was searching on Google about the new acticle that came out and came across this website. It took a couple days before I could get approved to post though.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:28 pm to Allluvnohate
quote:
I disagree with you completely. And Josh will not be murdered by that evil monster. How on earth you came to the conclusion that his mom wanting to get him treatment and therapy is out of spite is beyond me
1st there is no murder anywhere in this case, its delayed consequences of an attempted suicide and police policy negligence.
I didn't say spite was 100% the reason, but you said it yourself, the wife is an evil monster. it probably could influence mom's decision to challenge. also IDC what the mom wants in 2021 there is no treatment or therapy to heal that man's anoxic brain injury years afterward.
sorry to burst your bubble but this case will not end how you want it to. Its established legally that spouse supersedes parents as medical proxy, the court already granted the spouse curatorship. the mom is only delaying the inevitable with legal stall tactics. No one is a hero here and that man is being victimized by prolongation of the fiasco.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:28 pm to SouthernStyled
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Wives are first in line for a reason
They are also first in line for insurance payouts and lawsuits
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:29 pm to Allluvnohate
just my opinion you're not helping by airing dirty laundry here
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:29 pm to OWLFAN86
Get off my lawn
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:34 pm to Mr Clean
quote:i will beat the shite out of you and then take Stella to doggie daycare to have her pampered her nails painted
Get off my lawn
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:37 pm to Ric Flair
quote:
Opinions/takeaway points:
A suicide attempt should always equal a DNR. It’s the purpose of the initial act (suicide), and anyone resuscitating is going against their wishes
If going thru a separation or divorce, make sure to designate a power of attorney who is not your estranged whore wife
If contemplating suicide attempt to get necessary rehab/detox, don’t do it in jail if it’s opiods. Maybe something life threatening like alcohol with seizures/delirium tremors, but not opioid withdrawal, which obviously sucks but is not life threatening.
Someone who says HBO will be effective three years out from an anoxic brain injury is a snake oil salesman who probably is trying to drum up business to pay off his hyperbaric oxygen chamber. It’s not like an ankle ulcer from pvd
Dr Phil still sucks
Josh was never resuscitated. He never stopped breathing.
The majority of people who survive a suicide attempt are grateful they survived.
I am in contact with several people who are doing hbot for their loved one with an anoxic brain injury and it is helping. Josh's current condition is from lack of any type of stimulation not from the original injury. If he would have been given therapy and treatment early on he most likely would be in a better condition. Nobody can guarantee how he would respond now.
My point is it was recommended he do about 2 months of hbot. Isn't his life valuable enough to give him the 2 months of treatment to know with absolute certainty how he responds? The money was already donated to pay for it.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:40 pm to Ric Flair
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A suicide attempt should always equal a DNR. It’s the purpose of the initial act (suicide), and anyone resuscitating is going against their wishes
not true, way too absolute of a claim. many suicide attempts are more like cries for attention rather than true intent to die. they could even be accidental, it would be difficult to know if it was even an attempt at suicide, or an attempt to avoid custody or something else in certain situations.
many are depressed/psychotic/intoxicated or otherwise in a condition where we would determine they did not have the capacity to make decisions.
I would agree if they had filed DNR/DNI paperwork, had copies of it with them and had DNR/DNI tattooed on them.
pretty much even arriving at the emergency room or hospital in a critical or severe condition is implied consent for treatment unless a proxy/documents are present to dictate otherwise.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:41 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
OWLFAN86
You have gotten awfully froggy since your brain injury.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:43 pm to Allluvnohate
quote:
The money was already donated to pay for it.
a sucker is born everyday. weren't you just claiming the wife was doing fraudulent fundraisers and decided to support one yourself?
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:44 pm to Obtuse1
quote:I like fricking with Clean his replies are always so measured and reasonable
You have gotten awfully froggy since your brain injury.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:45 pm to AMS
quote:
sorry to burst your bubble but this case will not end how you want it to. Its established legally that spouse supersedes parents as medical proxy, the court already granted the spouse curatorship
She is going to lose it. She won't continue to have guardianship. There is information the lawyers have and no judge in their right mind would allow her to continue making decisions for him
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:46 pm to Allluvnohate
quote:
Josh was never resuscitated. He never stopped breathing.
The majority of people who survive a suicide attempt are grateful they survived.
I agree.
To the poster earlier who said "all suicides should be DNR" I disagree.
I know of people in person who attempted suicide, survived, even atheists who found God and were certainly thankful for another chance in this one life we get.
I'm just not a fan of absolutes. I am not giving an opinion one way or another on this situation. I don't know enough about it. However, every situation should be treated uniquely, IMO.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:49 pm to Allluvnohate
quote:You don't know his current information. No one has evaluated him.
I contacted a hbot specialist and gave then all Josh's information and he gave me his professional opinion.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 6:51 pm to AMS
quote:
quote:
The money was already donated to pay for it.
a sucker is born everyday. weren't you just claiming the wife was doing fraudulent fundraisers and decided to support one yourself?
Yes the money was donated and she took it but rest assured when the time comes she best have found a way to come up with the missing money or she will have criminal charges. She may even have charges sooner than that. Either way the money with be there to pay for treatment one way or another. The only thing stopping his treatment right now is her approval, which won't be needed soon
Posted on 7/27/21 at 7:15 pm to Allluvnohate
So can he respond in any way shape or form? Can he blink to command, can he make any purposeful movement to command? What about his skin condition? What did the Neurologist say his potential mental/physical improvement? I still say he is suffering , he requires Tube feeding, suctioning because he cannot cough up his secretions. You cannot say he is not suffering because he is!
Posted on 7/27/21 at 7:17 pm to Allluvnohate
Hyperbaric oxygen to brain tissue that has been dead for three years is worthless. If done within days, maybe you can salvage the penumbra and have good clinical outcomes. After three years, you’re mainly relying on neuroplasticity for any functional improvements.
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