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re: Army Considers Return to Gendered Fitness Test as Equality Experiment Fails Miserably
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:26 am to PJinAtl
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:26 am to PJinAtl
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I'm surprised they are thinking about going this route.
Don't be. How many people have you heard talking about including women in the draft. It's all a ruse.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:28 am to Jack Carter
I call bullshite that only 32,000 Male Soldiers have scored at least 500/600.
I also note that the article completely leaves out the fact that the ACFT is age-neutral.
I also note that the article completely leaves out the fact that the ACFT is age-neutral.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:31 am to Jack Carter
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Gendered Fitness Test as Equality Experiment Fails Miserably
Yes, I know it was the Marines in AFGM
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:33 am to Jack Carter
Sounds like discrimination. Females should have the same requirements just like Trans too.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:36 am to RemyLeBeau
Why not go back to the original standards?
If you can pass, you’re in. If not, you’re out.
Not the men+women, gender neutral stuff.
The first half of the 1900’s standard.
If you can meet the requirements, I don’t care what you are. May only be 1-2 women that make it. But lowering the standards time and again to allow more admittance is just further proving the point.
If you can pass, you’re in. If not, you’re out.
Not the men+women, gender neutral stuff.
The first half of the 1900’s standard.
If you can meet the requirements, I don’t care what you are. May only be 1-2 women that make it. But lowering the standards time and again to allow more admittance is just further proving the point.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:36 am to Jack Carter
If they are going to be in combat situations they need to be judged by the same standards.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:39 am to V Bainbridge
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If they are going to be in combat situations they need to be judged by the same standards.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:42 am to GumboPot
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fricking idiots.
Subtle truth.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:46 am to Jack Carter
This further highlights why women shouldn't be in the military to begin with. So they can't pass this "genderless" test. Ok... So now what? We go back to giving them female fitness tests that they can pass, but that fall woefully short of the male standard? And it's totally fine to send substandard soldiers out into the field of battle, endangering the lives of everyone around them?
I know that there are women that have fought and died for this country. I don't want in any way to take away from their sacrifices. But this is just common sense. You don't send people out into battle who can't hang with everyone else, just to make a political statement.
I know that there are women that have fought and died for this country. I don't want in any way to take away from their sacrifices. But this is just common sense. You don't send people out into battle who can't hang with everyone else, just to make a political statement.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:46 am to Jack Carter
So, males are physically stronger and more athletic than females? No way! What genius figured this out? Follow the science!!!
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:46 am to Wolfhound45
High fitness scores gives you the leg up for promotion, they should keep the new system.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:47 am to Jack Carter
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Of course, this effort to treat men and women as physical equals has only shown how different they actually are.
and in other breaking news: "Water is Wet!"
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:47 am to Jack Carter
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Return to Gendered Fitness Test
Aren’t there 30,000 genders? That’s a lot of different standards.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:03 am to V Bainbridge
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If they are going to be in combat situations they need to be judged by the same standards.
It'll never happen. And even if it did, it ignores the disruptive dynamic that sex introduces in units that work in very close proximity for long periods of time. Granted, that's only a small part of the military, but they've been included in all the social experimentation. That's why allowing gays was a bad idea; not because they can't do the job, but because it introduces an aspect that never enhances combat effectiveness and can only damage it.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:23 am to Jack Carter
If we were an honest society the believed in science we would recognize that the vast, VAST majority of women are qualified for a very few, specific roles in the military. None of which are combat related.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:29 am to Mahootney
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Why not go back to the original standards?
If you can pass, you’re in. If not, you’re out.
Not the men+women, gender neutral stuff.
The first half of the 1900’s standard.
If you can meet the requirements, I don’t care what you are. May only be 1-2 women that make it. But lowering the standards time and again to allow more admittance is just further proving the point.
And they should be retested yearly. Just because you got in 7 years ago doesnt mean you can weigh 350 pounds and cant function in the environment you are being paid to do.
Regarding the original post I would think that standards should be established for what is necessary to preform the duties that they are there for. Male or female, doesnt matter. They should have to be able to do xx pushups, xx pullups, and run a mile in xx minutes.
And police officers should also be held to that standard. Put down the fricking donut. There is a Tuscaloosa PD motorcycle cop who is about 5'10" and HAS TO weigh at least 400 pounds. Like he has to turn sideways to walk (actually shuffle) through a doorway. A criminal could be on crutches and out run that fatass.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:48 am to Jack Carter
quote:While the Army has more than their fair share, this one is in the Marines.
Maybe have them stick to office work and cafeteria duty?
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:49 am to Jack Carter
frick that.
They made the decision, so they should have to deal with the consequences
They made the decision, so they should have to deal with the consequences
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:00 am to DemonKA3268
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While the Army has more than their fair share, this one is in the Marines.
That one ate the Marines.
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