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re: Colorado: If you don’t disclose job opening expected salary…..
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:33 am to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:33 am to GreenRockTiger
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Why is this bad?
Because it's a LAW. It's your government out of control.
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Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:35 am to Kujo
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You hire two entry-level accountants, One for $50k one for $100,000?
This is a horrible example.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:11 am to GreenRockTiger
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Why is this bad? I’ve never applied for a job that didn’t have some sort of salary info advertised
Are you counting "Commensurate with Experience" or "Negotiable" as "some sort of salary information", or do you just not apply for those positions?
Because other than government positions or seasonal (internship) positions in college, I've applied for a handful of jobs that didn't have a salary advertised, but one of the two statements above listed. I've seen even more positions like that than I've applied for.
This is the definition of government overreach. What business does the government have in dictating how a business advertises a position?
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 7:12 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:15 am to GreenRockTiger
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I’ve never applied for a job that didn’t have some sort of salary info advertised
Since leaving my hourly technician position at age 24, I have never applied for a job that did advertise salary. It's on you to figure out how much you are worth (not how much you think you're worth) and on the company to figure out how much they are willing to pay.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:18 am to TimeOutdoors
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Why not disclose starting salaries? Seems like it would save people a lot of time.
Because in their zeal to slash wages, terrible employers enjoy having their employees bitter and angry over people doing the same work being paid much different wages.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 7:20 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:20 am to ColoradoAg03
hey but, at least they can smoke weed
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:23 am to GreenRockTiger
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Why is this bad?
Because it’s none of their dang business, that’s why! A company, or a person, should be able to advertise however they want; it’s part of our natural rights. Every government law is a transgression of those rights, and only those laws necessary for an orderly society should be enacted.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:29 am to ShoeBang
quote:It's a waste of everyone's time if there isn't at least some sort of understanding of expected pay for a potential position.
Since leaving my hourly technician position at age 24, I have never applied for a job that did advertise salary. It's on you to figure out how much you are worth (not how much you think you're worth) and on the company to figure out how much they are willing to pay.
A friend of mine interviewed for a job that has a national average of ~75k (state average is roughly the same), when they got down to discussing pay, the hospital wanted to pay her ~30k
ETA: more transparency is always better, IMO
I had a similar experience too that I'm just remembering. I interviewed for a job in Hawaii. Interview went well, and they wanted to discuss salary. They were going to pay me the same in Hawaii that I was making in New Orleans, if I knew that going into the interview I wouldn't have even taken it. The salary was a non-starter.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:45 am to Epic Cajun
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ETA: more transparency is always better, IMO
It's not up to the government to regulate every aspect of our lives.
If you want that, move to China.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:50 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:Because a single law is the same as regulating every aspect of our lives
It's not up to the government to regulate every aspect of our lives.
quote:frick off, if you want no laws move to Sub-Saharan Africa.
If you want that, move to China.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:53 am to TimeOutdoors
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Why not disclose starting salaries? Seems like it would save people a lot of time.
It's eventually going to go the way of no haggle pricing at car places. You shouldn't get lesser pay or a crappier deal based on negotiating for something that is constant.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:55 am to GreenRockTiger
GreenRockTiger, difference of generations maybe? I have never taken a job that i knew the salary until i decided to take it. Tell them to pay me what im worth, but I decide if its a job i want first.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:57 am to geauxskeet
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I have never taken a job that i knew the salary until i decided to take it.
That’s kind of stupid to be honest.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:15 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Very, money is a large factor into which jobs I'm going to take.
That’s kind of stupid to be honest.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:23 am to ColoradoAg03
I interviewed once for a job I thought would be a great fit based on the title and description. I got an offer for about half of what I expected. I told them what I wanted and they couldn’t come close. So we both wasted our time and they couldn’t believe what I thought it should be.
Post a salary range based on experience at minimum. That could mean $100-125k or something. But you can’t offer $80k and ask for 10+ years experience and be taken seriously.
Post a salary range based on experience at minimum. That could mean $100-125k or something. But you can’t offer $80k and ask for 10+ years experience and be taken seriously.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:26 am to TimeOutdoors
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Why not disclose starting salaries?
Negotiations.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:27 am to ColoradoAg03
Land of the free, hunh?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:28 am to Cowboyfan89
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It's not up to the government to regulate every aspect of our lives.
Correct.
Its a feel good measure for "do gooders." Who wants to work a job with a fixed scale?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:28 am to Epic Cajun
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Because a single law is the same as regulating every aspect of our lives
If you can't grasp the point I'm making, maybe you stay out of the conversation.
Little laws add up to big laws. The more you give away, the more they are going to take.
So Colorado passed this law--no big deal, right? What about when they start telling companies what they can pay their employees (above and beyond a minimum wage)? Are they overstepping now? Where do you draw the line?
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frick off, if you want no laws move to Sub-Saharan Africa.
There's a big difference between wanting no laws and not wanting frivolous laws that have no business even being law. The government should not be regulating everything.
What business does the government have in regulating this? What is the benefit to society?
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 8:31 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:29 am to fightin tigers
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The difference in opinion as to whether companies should or shouldn't advertise can be seen as good or bad.
The state mandating how a job has to be advertised, via a law, oversteps for me.
Exactly.
Free market will take care of this.
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