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re: Blackrock is buying every single-family house they can & paying 20-50% above asking price

Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:47 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:47 am to
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, you think the cries for socialism are bad now?


This looks like a recipe for communism. The government is involved here.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:51 am to
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Both Dems and GOP politicians are part of this.
Uniparty
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:55 am to
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I'd argue that the lesson from 2008 is that the government fully believes in "too big to fail" and will protect big companies under the guise of helping the little guy.

They believe it because it's true. You don't bail them out and the whole system collapses. Blackrock is actively using that fact for leverage. It's unsustainable.

We still have one more ride through this left in us though. That is the real wager they are making.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27472 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:58 am to
My concern regarding the increasing percentage of single family homes being purchased by investors is what finally got me to pull the trigger on buying my first house. As insane as the merry go round currently is, it may continue speeding up such that most people simply can't jump on. So I figured it was better to make the leap now than run the risk of waiting.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:59 am to
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You must know nothing about BlackRock. They are huge proponents of environmental change, black lives matter, and a laundry list of liberal/socialist causes


I think you are missing the point. Once the middle class is forced out of home ownership more and more middle class citizens may acquire socialist's views if they believe the system is rigged against them (it is)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Once the middle class is forced out of home ownership more and more middle class citizens may acquire socialist's views if they believe the system is rigged against them (it is)


Its a government created disaster. So, you're saying people are too dumb to make this connection? Why would you want MORE of it?

Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:08 pm to
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So, you're saying people are too dumb to make this connection?


Yes

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Why would you want MORE of it?


Why would I want more of what?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75376 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:10 pm to
Are we talking middle class as in less than $100,000 household income for a married couple or more like middle class less than $250,000 household income?
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:14 pm to
Stout, this is one of the best threads ever. This is exactly how a huge chunk of The Great Reset it going to happen. The United States of America is absolutely committed to making The Great Reset happen.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22382 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:17 pm to
I'm amazed more people just don't give a shite about this. Until it's too late.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27247 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:20 pm to
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That reminds of the book Snow Crash where every neighborhood is it's own corporately owned town.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:21 pm to
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This is exactly how a huge chunk of The Great Reset it going to happen.


Yep. Corporatism, technocracy...its all there.

Government, media and corporation have combined into one.
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Yep. Corporatism, technocracy...its all there.


Yep, much worse than run of the mill Socialism
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Yep, much worse than run of the mill Socialism


Yep. I think it leads to socialism though. Government isn't dumb and realizes the higher education, stock and housing bubbles will collapse. Theyre prepared to take it on.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61675 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:30 pm to
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I'm amazed more people just don't give a shite about this. Until it's too late.


What are they supposed to do? Call their congressmen?

Remember when the housing bubble burst? We The People melted down congressional phone lines with an unprecedented amount of negative feed back to bills they were considering to bail out the banks. As soon as the pork was added to the bill they passed it and stuck the tax payers with the banks gambling debts. They went against what the people they allegedly "represent" very clearly told them they wanted to happen.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1859 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:39 pm to
there is nothing nefarious about what Blackrock or the 100s of other similar investors are doing

if you've ever rented a single family home, it is almost impossible to make a decent annual return without home price appreciation -- if you own several, you can lower your annual cost of maintenance, finding new tenants, evictions, though a real estate management company

the real estate investors aren't doing this for the pure purpose of real estate appreciation - they are doing this for margin - monthly income over monthly cost...the only reason they can pay above market right now is because...mmkt returns are basically zero right now

you have tons of investors that are buying these funds, your everyday mmkt fund, sovereign funds over seas, your companies pensions, state and municipal pensions

this is just another form of investing
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29123 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:52 pm to
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you have tons of investors that are buying these funds, your everyday mmkt fund, sovereign funds over seas, your companies pensions, state and municipal pensions

this is just another form of investing


If we’re coming from some random corporation and not one that is notorious for pushing great reset ideals and actual communism (I’m not saying communism is the worst thing ever/ Marxist/socialist, whatever the right’s boogeyman is, it’s genuine communism) where they’re aiming for no ownership.

It’s not investing, it’s Cloward-Pivening it.

Same thing as current unemployment benefits, health care, college loans, no cash bail, etc.

People are manipulating outcomes to push our current systems to the max. Then they can say “see we told you it was broken. Let’s rebuild it from the ground up. Totally ignore the fact that we were in charge of the government, schools, media, Wall Street, etc. last time. it will totally be equitable now that we have the money.”
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1859 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
Blackrock is the definition of capitalism - they have grown into the largest asset manager in the world
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
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you have tons of investors that are buying these funds, your everyday mmkt fund, sovereign funds over seas, your companies pensions, state and municipal pensions

this is just another form of investing

i think most people would feel better, at least about the meta, if these "investors" agreed to never accept government payment for these homes

if these companies are relying, ultimately, on the public supporting them, then they lose the "investor" argument entirely
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