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re: Ford's Mach-E output exceeds gas-powered Mustang so far in 2021
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:34 pm to jamboybarry
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:34 pm to jamboybarry
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Efficiency at producing motion isn’t exactly high up on the demand/marketing pyramid of vehicles in the U. S.
You are completely changing the argument you made initially that I was specifically responding to:
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Imagine how much natural gas and coal we are going to burn for all these fricking EV’s
Your initial argument was an attempt at a gotcha but it is based on a fallacy.
Demand and government social engineering are different discussions all together.
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:38 pm to saintforlife1
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Assuming for a second that electrification of vehicles in the US is some kind of a liberal conspiracy theory to punish the O&G industry and Trump supporters,
Thats your assumption
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:41 pm to Obtuse1
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You are completely changing the argument you made initially that I was specifically responding to:
That’s a comment on literally the first post you had in the thread
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Your initial argument was an attempt at a gotcha but it is based on a fallacy.
Will increased EV usage result in increased fossil fuel based electricity generation? Simple yes or no
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:52 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I watched a YouTube video where Neal DeGrasse Tyson said the energy will come from another source. He seemed to indicate oil and natural gas would just go away. People believe that shite.
Eventually they will. It’s a cost issue right now for energy companies. It’s still cheaper to use oil and gas than other means of energy. When that day will come depends on the market and the government.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:57 pm to rickgrimes
Can’t wait to roll coal on a Mustang E with my 6.6L Turbodiesel.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:17 pm to rickgrimes
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Another nail in the oil-baw-truck-nuts coffin?
You have to own an electric vehicle for approximately 7 years before there’s any environmental difference.
How many people keep cars that long?
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:30 pm to rickgrimes
Mach E is not a mustang no matter what ford execs call it.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:55 pm to rickgrimes
I grew up in a Ford family and currently have an old one now.
It will be my last. frick Ford
It will be my last. frick Ford
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:58 pm to Obtuse1
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Great argument to exploit the uninformed and/or weak minded.
This argument totally avoids the fact the EV/US power grid is much more efficient at turning hydrocarbons into motion than ICE based vehicles. That is not even accounting for the 17% of the US power generated from renewable sources.
we’re going to run out of Lithium before any of this matters
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:58 pm to Obtuse1
Be that as it may, you sound like a simple bitch. I am drunk and would love to punch you in the face??
By th way I also have EE degree and you’re wrong, but more than that people like you are the current problem with this country. You think you know something. You don’t really know shite. Goodnight
By th way I also have EE degree and you’re wrong, but more than that people like you are the current problem with this country. You think you know something. You don’t really know shite. Goodnight
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:21 pm to jamboybarry
I still love the meme that EVs are bad because they are not carbon neutral.
Who gives a shite. In 10-15 years EVs will start to really take off because they are simply straight up better than the gas alternative in virtually every facet. The average consumer doesn't give a frick how much better or not it is for the environment. EVs will just be the superior option in the (relatively) near future.
Who gives a shite. In 10-15 years EVs will start to really take off because they are simply straight up better than the gas alternative in virtually every facet. The average consumer doesn't give a frick how much better or not it is for the environment. EVs will just be the superior option in the (relatively) near future.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:07 am to rickgrimes
They can make as many electric vehicles as they want and the libs and media can talk them up, but that doesn't mean the public is on board with the idea...
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:12 am to rickgrimes
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Another nail in the oil-baw-truck-nuts coffin?
You think wind power will make enough megawatts to charge our countries 300 million cars daily?
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 1:13 am
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:19 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Who gives a shite. In 10-15 years EVs will start to really take off because they are simply straight up better than the gas alternative in virtually every facet. The average consumer doesn't give a frick how much better or not it is for the environment. EVs will just be the superior option in the (relatively) near future
Aircraft, Boats, Trains, Tractors - better in EV models too? What method are we making all the power to charge these EV's? Where is the battery material coming from? Where are we disposing the spent material? Where is the copper for all the billions of motors to be made coming from? What will electric prices go up to?
What will we make plastic from? Styrofoam? Fertilizers? Asphalt? Propane? Hydrogen? Ammonia?
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 1:23 am
Posted on 6/5/21 at 5:53 am to jamboybarry
quote:I'm not anti O&G but this is a weak argument. Charging stations aren't that difficult or expensive to install compared to ICE infrastructure.
And you totally avoid the current infrastructure built around ICE vehicles
Posted on 6/5/21 at 5:55 am to rickgrimes
I drive a 2019 Mustang Bullitt and don’t think I’ll ever drive an EV unless forced due to gas not being available. I’m thinking of getting a Mach 1 and, if I do, it will be my last vehicle for a while. Just as someone else stated, no matter how Ford labels it, I’ll never consider the Mach E a true Mustang.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 5:55 am to rickgrimes
You left out some critical information....
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The global computer-chip shortage hobbling the auto industry played a role in the Mach-E surpassing the traditional Mustang. Farley said the company is prioritizing its newest models, such as the Mach-E and the Bronco SUV, as its distributes its scarce supply of semiconductor modules. Ford’s Flat Rock factory built no gas Mustangs last month, according to the production data.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 7:09 pm to rickgrimes
I saw one of these in person today.
They sound like an electric toothbrush
They sound like an electric toothbrush
Posted on 7/5/21 at 7:10 pm to rickgrimes
Chip shortage has forced Ford into rationing production of some models. So I wouldn’t judge relative popularity on 2021 sales.
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 7/5/21 at 7:13 pm to rickgrimes
I’ll be damned if I ever purchase a vehicle made in Mexico. What a hunk of shite.
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