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Question for the PT junta regarding Flu being counted as Covid.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:22 am
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:22 am
The theory from the left is that masking/social distancing eradicated the flu and that is the reason for so few flu cases.
The theory from the right is that flu cases are actually being counted as Covid.
Not all scandals are created equal but this one is massive and if exposed could really red pill a lot of people so its worth more investigation IMO. Proving that masks and social distancing did not eradicate the flu should be easy to prove.
States that reduced masking mandates and lockdowns earlier like Fl and TX should have seen their flu cases rise accordingly and in far greater numbers than states that kept them in place.
Did this occur and why are we not looking at this data?
The theory from the right is that flu cases are actually being counted as Covid.
Not all scandals are created equal but this one is massive and if exposed could really red pill a lot of people so its worth more investigation IMO. Proving that masks and social distancing did not eradicate the flu should be easy to prove.
States that reduced masking mandates and lockdowns earlier like Fl and TX should have seen their flu cases rise accordingly and in far greater numbers than states that kept them in place.
Did this occur and why are we not looking at this data?
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:26 am to Robin Masters
No way masks eradicated the flu this past year. There are way too many people that have not been wearing masks or cared about distancing for the flu to have dropped to almost nothing. No way.
And the Covidians will be the first to tell you that too many people are not wearing masks or distancing.
And the Covidians will be the first to tell you that too many people are not wearing masks or distancing.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:29 am to Robin Masters
quote:
The theory from the left is that masking/social distancing eradicated the flu and that is the reason for so few flu cases.
No, it was just the flu’s were counted as Covid.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:33 am to Robin Masters
In the hospital where I work, people who are having flu-like symptoms are being tested for flu at the same time as COVID. There is no conspiracy to count the positive flu tests as COVID at our hospital. The fact is there are very few positive flu tests in the patient population, and I know this is 100% true. No one knows why exactly but this is the way it is.
The easiest explanation to imagine is that masks and social distancing have likely made a big impact. That does not mean it is the only reason flu is so scarce this year, but until a better theory with strong supporting data is put forward, I am leaning toward the widespread masking as the most likely cause for decreased flu transmission.
The easiest explanation to imagine is that masks and social distancing have likely made a big impact. That does not mean it is the only reason flu is so scarce this year, but until a better theory with strong supporting data is put forward, I am leaning toward the widespread masking as the most likely cause for decreased flu transmission.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:41 am to Robin Masters
quote:I find this difficult to believe because so many wear masks incorrectly, or made of useless materials. Many have also given up on masks for months now. Shouldn't there be a boom of flu in places that were less compliant with masks and distancing?
The theory from the left is that masking/social distancing eradicated the flu and that is the reason for so few flu cases
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:50 am to Robin Masters
Travel restrictions stopped the flu more than anything else. Various strains rely on travel to move between regions, finding areas where resistance has worn off in a population. Covid-19 spread because no one was resistant anywhere for the most part.
Also flu generally has a much shorter incubation period, so less of a chance to spread.
Also flu generally has a much shorter incubation period, so less of a chance to spread.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:58 am to Robin Masters
Covidians will simultaneously say masking and social distancing eradicated the flu but the reason we had so many deaths and COVID cases is because there was low compliancy on masking...
Wearing face masks to prevent the flu has been looked at MANY times in MANY scenarios and all the research has been inconclusive, at best. If wearing a dirty cloth mask prevented flu cases, someone would have found out by now. We've been dealing with the flu for the entireity of human existence.
Wearing face masks to prevent the flu has been looked at MANY times in MANY scenarios and all the research has been inconclusive, at best. If wearing a dirty cloth mask prevented flu cases, someone would have found out by now. We've been dealing with the flu for the entireity of human existence.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:19 am to Robin Masters
The mask response would only make sense to explain a decrease in flu. It does not explain some places going from 20,000 cases of flu the prior year to zero this year.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:44 am to Robin Masters
I think both things are true...
-the measures taken (social distancing, shutdowns, masks) probably did make flu cases lower than normal
-AND some counted COVID cases were actually the flu
IMO Both can be true at the same time
-the measures taken (social distancing, shutdowns, masks) probably did make flu cases lower than normal
-AND some counted COVID cases were actually the flu
IMO Both can be true at the same time
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 5:42 am
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:51 am to Robin Masters
DeSantis noted the case of a boy in Germany who had both covid and flu. Based on tracking and contact tracing, he infected one person with covid and 30 with flu. Mere anecdote, but interesting.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:37 am to Robin Masters
if masking eradicates flu, how come increased mask utilization showed almost zero correlation to covid case drops?
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:14 am to Robin Masters
Took my daughter to Urgent Care in January. I thought she had COVID, but it came back as a viral infection. The flu is a type of viral infection, but she wasn’t tested for the flu just given the diagnosis of a VI. It was treated just like any other flu I have seen.
A lot of the kids from her school had “Viral Infections” this year, but not one of them was diagnosed with the flu.
Pretty sure the viral infections around here were the flu.
A lot of the kids from her school had “Viral Infections” this year, but not one of them was diagnosed with the flu.
Pretty sure the viral infections around here were the flu.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:30 pm to Robin Masters
quote:
eing counted as Covid. by Robin Masters
The theory from the left is that masking/social distancing eradicated the flu and that is the reason for so few flu cases.
The theory from the right is that flu cases are actually being counted as Covid.
This ^^^^ BS is so stupid I don’t need to think about it to know the oppressors were trying to categorize as much illness and death into the Covid19 column.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:13 pm to Robin Masters
Yeah I don’t get this, so the flu just took the year off..
And still it’ll be back in full force this fall/ winter,
How’s that work exactly?
And still it’ll be back in full force this fall/ winter,
How’s that work exactly?
Posted on 5/14/21 at 2:43 pm to Robin Masters
The only thing we know for sure is that CDC said they would not track the flu this last winter.
Only idiots would claim the lack of flu data means the flu didn't happen this last year.
Only idiots would claim the lack of flu data means the flu didn't happen this last year.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 4:06 pm to Robin Masters
They had in right in the beginning.
Stay away from people, wash your hands, don't touch your face.
These and not going to work or out with the slightest sniffle probably helped more than anything. All the stats are probably crap. I just go on what I see in community.
As far as masks, there have be several studies that say cloth masks are crap. Duke screwed up in the beginning and did a pretty good study that showed the comparisons.
I question if the masks are effective purely because the guideline writers, CDC, NIH, states, counties, cities rarely gave any guidance on mask materials to wear and how to wear masks. They should have been drilling us on how to wear masks if masks were really the save all. How many of you wear ear plugs in a work setting? How many OSHA videos have you watched for proper insertion? Earplugs are crap if you don't put them in right.
Two masks was probably the best advise they came up with but they backed into it. Most people I see with 2 masks have a cloth mask over a surgical mask. The cloth mask does nothing but make the surgical mask fit better.
Stay away from people, wash your hands, don't touch your face.
These and not going to work or out with the slightest sniffle probably helped more than anything. All the stats are probably crap. I just go on what I see in community.
As far as masks, there have be several studies that say cloth masks are crap. Duke screwed up in the beginning and did a pretty good study that showed the comparisons.
I question if the masks are effective purely because the guideline writers, CDC, NIH, states, counties, cities rarely gave any guidance on mask materials to wear and how to wear masks. They should have been drilling us on how to wear masks if masks were really the save all. How many of you wear ear plugs in a work setting? How many OSHA videos have you watched for proper insertion? Earplugs are crap if you don't put them in right.
Two masks was probably the best advise they came up with but they backed into it. Most people I see with 2 masks have a cloth mask over a surgical mask. The cloth mask does nothing but make the surgical mask fit better.
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