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re: What are some notable baseball careers that started off HOF worthy only to derail badly.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:17 pm to High C
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:17 pm to High C
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I don’t know if you can count a player who died of old age while on the field playing in an MLB game.
You’re confusing him with Julio Franco lol
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:36 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Three full pages and no mention of Fred Lynn. Yes he had a long career but being ROY and MVP in the same year should earn you very strong contention for the Hall of Fame. He never played in more than 147 games after his fourth season.
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Dammit, missed SoFla's post.
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Dammit, missed SoFla's post.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:40 pm to diremustang
Umm not the Piazza I’m mentioning in the post
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:45 pm to Bench McElroy
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Nomar Garciaparra. He was better than Jeter before injuries destroyed his career.
I remember reading a SI article years ago about Jeter and what its like to play in New York and he said basically that Yankee fans are a-holes and when he walks the streets people shout at him..."hey Jeter, you ain't no Nomar...you suck buddy, you ain't no Nomar."
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:56 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Textbook definition: Denny McClain
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:58 pm to Ostrich
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Lance Berkman
Doesn’t fit this thread at all.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 6:12 pm to West Palm Tiger561
All the obvious ones have been covered in the thread. So I'm not sure if either of these had HOF starts, but Joe Mauer won an AL MVP. Justin Morneau was one of the best catchers in the game.
Those two were the key to the Twins decent run they had through the mid-00's. Mauer had three consecutive seasons with 30+ HRs then it seemed like he just disappeared as quickly as he came on.
Those two were the key to the Twins decent run they had through the mid-00's. Mauer had three consecutive seasons with 30+ HRs then it seemed like he just disappeared as quickly as he came on.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 6:21 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Eric Gange had 52, 55 and 45 saves his first three seasons as a closer. And his era wasn’t higher than 2.19 any of those years.
All the cub pitchers up to 2003
All the cub pitchers up to 2003
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 6:26 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Eric Davis. Was supposed to be the next Willie Mays. Injuries took him down.
In his first full year of professional baseball, Davis pilfered 40 bases in 62 games.[3]
When Davis first appeared in the major leagues in 1984, his physical talents gave him the potential to be one of the most exciting players in the game. He was a rare five-tool player with home run power as well as sheer speed on the base paths. He made a habit of robbing home runs and elicited comparisons to Willie Mays.
Davis began to excel in 1986, batting .277, swatting 27 homers, and stealing 80 bases. He and Rickey Henderson remain the only players in major league history to be members of the "20/80 club".[5] In a 162-game span—June 11, 1986 to July 4, 1987—he made 659 plate appearance and batted .308/.406/.622 with 47 homers, 149 runs, 123 RBI, and 98 stolen bases. (He was caught stealing just 12 times.)[3]
Davis continued to build on his success in 1987. On Opening Day, he went 3–for–3 with a home run, a stolen base, and two walks. Through the first 10 games, he was batting .526 with 4 home runs and 8 stolen bases. On May 1, 1987, he hit 2 home runs, including a grand slam. Two days later, he hit another three home runs—one each to left, center, and right field—including a grand slam, and a stolen base. He hit another grand slam that month, making him the first player in history to hit three in one month. During an eventful play in the late innings at Wrigley Field on September 4, Davis crashed into the outfield brick wall as he caught a deep fly ball; he laid on the ground several moments and was slowed afterward.[3]
Davis finished the 1987 season with a .293 average, 37 homers, and 50 steals. He became the first player in history to hit 30 homers and steal 50 bases in a season, despite playing in only 129 games.[6] Prior to 1987, just six players had achieved the 30–30 club. That season, three others—including Strawberry, Joe Carter, and Howard Johnson—joined Davis in the 30–30 club.[3] He led the league in power-speed number (42.53) with a mark that is the third-highest single season mark ever.[7]
From 1986 to 1990, Davis averaged 30 home runs and 40 stolen bases. During this time, he was one of the game's most exciting players and a very visible superstar player. He drew some MVP support every year from 1986 to 1990, finishing in the top 15 in the voting every year. From 1986 to 1989, he also finished in the NL's top 10 in home runs, slugging percentage, and OPS each year. While he had some other good seasons later in his career, injuries prevented him from reaching this type of peak again. In 1990, with a solid team around him, Davis was a key player in Cincinnati's "wire-to-wire" championship season.
In his first full year of professional baseball, Davis pilfered 40 bases in 62 games.[3]
When Davis first appeared in the major leagues in 1984, his physical talents gave him the potential to be one of the most exciting players in the game. He was a rare five-tool player with home run power as well as sheer speed on the base paths. He made a habit of robbing home runs and elicited comparisons to Willie Mays.
Davis began to excel in 1986, batting .277, swatting 27 homers, and stealing 80 bases. He and Rickey Henderson remain the only players in major league history to be members of the "20/80 club".[5] In a 162-game span—June 11, 1986 to July 4, 1987—he made 659 plate appearance and batted .308/.406/.622 with 47 homers, 149 runs, 123 RBI, and 98 stolen bases. (He was caught stealing just 12 times.)[3]
Davis continued to build on his success in 1987. On Opening Day, he went 3–for–3 with a home run, a stolen base, and two walks. Through the first 10 games, he was batting .526 with 4 home runs and 8 stolen bases. On May 1, 1987, he hit 2 home runs, including a grand slam. Two days later, he hit another three home runs—one each to left, center, and right field—including a grand slam, and a stolen base. He hit another grand slam that month, making him the first player in history to hit three in one month. During an eventful play in the late innings at Wrigley Field on September 4, Davis crashed into the outfield brick wall as he caught a deep fly ball; he laid on the ground several moments and was slowed afterward.[3]
Davis finished the 1987 season with a .293 average, 37 homers, and 50 steals. He became the first player in history to hit 30 homers and steal 50 bases in a season, despite playing in only 129 games.[6] Prior to 1987, just six players had achieved the 30–30 club. That season, three others—including Strawberry, Joe Carter, and Howard Johnson—joined Davis in the 30–30 club.[3] He led the league in power-speed number (42.53) with a mark that is the third-highest single season mark ever.[7]
From 1986 to 1990, Davis averaged 30 home runs and 40 stolen bases. During this time, he was one of the game's most exciting players and a very visible superstar player. He drew some MVP support every year from 1986 to 1990, finishing in the top 15 in the voting every year. From 1986 to 1989, he also finished in the NL's top 10 in home runs, slugging percentage, and OPS each year. While he had some other good seasons later in his career, injuries prevented him from reaching this type of peak again. In 1990, with a solid team around him, Davis was a key player in Cincinnati's "wire-to-wire" championship season.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 6:59 pm to VerlanderBEAST
There are some startling bad takes in this thread. Perhaps none worse than Lincecum. He is one of only two pitchers in MLB history to win multiple World Series Championships, win multiple Cy Young Awards, throw multiple no hitters and be elected to multiple All Star games. The other is Sandy Koufax. I suppose one could say that his career derailed after an injury 9 years later, but jeez, derailed badly?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:01 pm to LSU - Mill Valley CA
Would Eric Chavez count?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:05 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Tuffy Rhodes.
Hit 3 HR in his first game opening day 1994 for the Cubs vs Mets Was never really heard from again.
I think he did end up with a decent career in Japan.
Hit 3 HR in his first game opening day 1994 for the Cubs vs Mets Was never really heard from again.
I think he did end up with a decent career in Japan.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:32 pm to MoarKilometers
quote:Sadly, yes.
Does Josh Hamilton qualify?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:09 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Mark Prior, Josh Hamilton, and Lincecum all come to mind.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:11 pm to Bluegrass_Cat
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Mark Prior
Came here to say this. Tear.
I was standing on waveland for the end of game 6.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:19 pm to LSU - Mill Valley CA
Tim Lincecum won’t make the HOF
How is that a bad take
He had two 7 WAR seasons in 08-09 & never came close to that again
How is that a bad take
He had two 7 WAR seasons in 08-09 & never came close to that again
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:29 pm to LSU - Mill Valley CA
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There are some startling bad takes in this thread. Perhaps none worse than Lincecum. He is one of only two pitchers in MLB history to win multiple World Series Championships, win multiple Cy Young Awards, throw multiple no hitters and be elected to multiple All Star games. The other is Sandy Koufax. I suppose one could say that his career derailed after an injury 9 years later, but jeez, derailed badly?
Thread says HOF worthy
He won’t make the HOF
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