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Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:21 am to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:21 am to


Texas poor
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35504 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:40 am to
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I'm sure Sierra Club backers are thankful for their warm toasty homes this morning. They can thank coal and natural gas powered power plants for that as renewable sources aren't doing a thing currently.

Most of these renewable energy pin heads have no idea how inconsistent and unreliable they are. They see it as simply "let's replace coal and natural gas powered power plants with renewable energy, and we will have just the same amount of kW supplied to the grid."

You can't rely on sunshine and wind to reliably power the grid. Neither of those are consistent, but coal and natural gas can supply the grid at whatever kW is required at any given time.
Isn't the problem that the baws down in Texas don't use fossil fuels for heat and instead use the least efficient method in electric to generate heat?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35504 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:47 am to
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Having to run electric for all these pools in Texas to keep the equipment from freezing and bursting is using up a lot of juice right now.
Yikes. Can you even keep the pool running with Temps consistently below freezing like they are now? Obviously we don't even try that up north.
Posted by roadtrash77
where the oil spurts
Member since Jan 2021
74 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:50 am to
Natural gas hubs freezing up is actually the main cause of this issue. Why? Because the providers didn’t spend the $$$ winterizing their equipment. Now NatGas prices are through the roof and those stations that are still working are making a killing.

And who is going to end up paying the extra $? Customers are.

Wind is obviously an issue as well, but Gas makes up about 35% of Texas total energy production
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:53 am to
Man some people are raging pussies. Figure something out.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16349 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:57 am to
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Man most people are raging pussies. Figure something out.


Fixed it. We are soft as a nation. It has been so good for so long that people freak out at the slightest bit of hardship. I really feel bad for the homeless right now. Those that are truly suffering.
Posted by GeneralLeeAwesome
Chalmette
Member since Aug 2017
554 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:02 am to
This just shows people have no understanding of there own HVAC systems. Electric heat uses 5Kw heat strips that run 20amps per strip plus the fan has to run to circulate the heat. Gas is the cheapest obviously. Those with heat pump systems are more than likely running on Emergency heat automatically because of the temperature at the condenser. Not to mention everyone running their heated pools and keeping those pumps circulating. The grid is overwhelmed
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
72557 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:09 am to
It's affecting a lot of ppl. I'm in IL and our city put out a message last night urging customers to reduce gas usage. It's -16 wind chill
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45913 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:29 am to
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You’re N Htown yea?
Yeah. Far, far north Htown. Like, Denton County.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45913 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:37 am to
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Why not winterize them instead?
Some people, like me, have pools that are higher than the pool equipment. It's run the pool or drain the pool. You don't drain the pool or hydrostatic pressure from water expanding has potential to crack the pool.

Well, my power is just now out for the third time.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16349 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:37 am to
Hello neighbor, I'm in Arlington near the airport.

I'm going to check snow depth later. How much have you received?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35504 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:51 am to
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Some people, like me, have pools that are higher than the pool equipment. It's run the pool or drain the pool. You don't drain the pool or hydrostatic pressure from water expanding has potential to crack the pool.

Well, my power is just now out for the third time.
A lot of pools are like that. When you winterize you blow the water out of the lines then plug them. Drop the water below the skimmers to make sure they don't bust.

I know it's a little late now. Good luck.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:52 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:58 am to
Just got power back from a 4-hour outage. You could skate on my pool.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45913 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:02 am to
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I'm going to check snow depth later. How much have you received?
Hey neighbor. I would say it's no more than 4" based on visual cues looking out
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21422 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:04 am to
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Man some people are raging pussies. Figure something out.


Right?

This is why I keep a spare generator in my home. I lose power I flip over to personal and boom I have have enough energy to power my home at least for a whole day until I get more gas. And that’s because I haven’t fully enhanced my gas storage capabilities yet.

Those people are all takers and none of them are gonna blame themselves for not preparing. They’ll blame the government or energy companies. Well I don’t rely on those companies absolutely. I have a personal backup plan should the system fail.
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
525 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:05 am to
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This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11866 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:08 am to
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This just shows people have no understanding of there own HVAC systems. Electric heat uses 5Kw heat strips that run 20amps per strip plus the fan has to run to circulate the heat. Gas is the cheapest obviously. Those with heat pump systems are more than likely running on Emergency heat automatically because of the temperature at the condenser. Not to mention everyone running their heated pools and keeping those pumps circulating. The grid is overwhelmed


this

you can easily get a 60,000 Btu - 100,000 BTU heater. on a 240v 30amp circuit you are maxed out at 7200 watt.

you need nearly 30 kW (negating heat transfer efficiency) to equal the heat capacity of 100,000 BTU generated from natural gas.

same works for water heaters electric vs gas

efficiency wise gas is cheaper the electric in the long run. electric is a cheaper up from cost and cheaper installation, but natural gas is cheaper over time to operate

and living in huricane territory, natural gas is more reliable then electricity.....
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120649 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:10 am to
This country should be 90%+ nuclear
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:10 am to
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enhanced my gas storage capabilities yet.


I siphon it out of the boat. Mobile 100 gallon reservoir
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18818 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:11 am to
Aren't most people on locked in fixed rates? Which means it will be a problem for the power company not consumers.

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