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Binge watched Star Wars Clone Wars, Rebels, and episodes 2&3 for the first time
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:56 pm
I took the board's advice after The Mandalorian and checked them out. I must say, TCW and Rebels were fantastic, while EP 2 and 3 were mediocre at best. Granted they were long running animated series with the ability to flesh out storylines, but the characters and details they provided to the Star Wars universe were great. IMO Ahsoka Tano is perhaps one of the best characters ever introduced. Not only is she a badass, but she provides Anikan with much needed balance to his character. Anikan himself is actually very likable in the series. Perhaps too likable though because his transformation at the end of the series is really hard to grasp. You're left wondering what happened to him that caused him to be consumed by the dark side.
Where Ep 2 and 3 fail miserably, is that Anikan is not likable at all. He's a arrogant douche from the beginning. He's a know it all dickhead, and for the life of me I can't understand how Kenobi ignored those traits and continued to train him. I found myself not giving a shite when Dooku chopped his arm off nor caring Obi Wan diced him up and left him in flames. In a weird way, I felt more empathy for Vader in 4, 5 and 6 than I did Anikan Skywalker. Also, there is absolutely zero passion or chemistry between Anikan and Padme despite the fact that it is an integral part of the story line.
Where Ep 2 and 3 fail miserably, is that Anikan is not likable at all. He's a arrogant douche from the beginning. He's a know it all dickhead, and for the life of me I can't understand how Kenobi ignored those traits and continued to train him. I found myself not giving a shite when Dooku chopped his arm off nor caring Obi Wan diced him up and left him in flames. In a weird way, I felt more empathy for Vader in 4, 5 and 6 than I did Anikan Skywalker. Also, there is absolutely zero passion or chemistry between Anikan and Padme despite the fact that it is an integral part of the story line.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:59 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
The end of the Clone Wars was so so good. Final 3 episodes were great but I loved the entire series.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 7:03 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
My kids just started clone wars again for the 4th time tonight - lol
We watched episode 1 yesterday - they might’ve watched 2 while I was cooking
We watched episode 1 yesterday - they might’ve watched 2 while I was cooking
Posted on 1/17/21 at 8:59 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
The big frick up in Star Wars history was George Lucas ever making Anakin a whiny brat in the first place. We were supposed to think Anakin was as great a Jedi Knight there ever was and in all the movies he’s a little a-hole. Cant fathom why they did that. It left shows like clone wars etc doing the work George should have done in prequels.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 1/18/21 at 6:44 am to Blizzard of Chizz
In my opinion their failure with Anakin was in the "whiny" part, not the "a-hole" part. In fact I didn't feel like they made Anakin enough of an a-hole. I've said it before and I'll say it again - Anakin should have been a character in the same mold as Dacre Montgomery's Billy from Stranger Things. He should have been a bold, cocky, arrogant son of a bitch who was stronger and more capable than everyone else and who knew he was stronger and more capable than everyone else and who could fix all the problems in the galaxy if everyone else would just get the hell out of his way with all their "rules" and "traditions" and shite. The main contrast between Anakin's character arc in the prequels and Luke's in the OT should have been that while they were both too old to begin Jedi training, Luke was humble enough to let go of everything he had learned on his own and let Yoda re-teach him things he thought he already knew, while Anakin was far too sure of himself to ever do that. Anakin's turn to the Sith should not have been because of some bad dream or any such foolishness, it should have been because Palpatine played into Anakin's weaknesses by more or less telling him, "Hey, the feelings you have are right. You are, truly, the Chosen One. You and you alone can solve all of these seemingly insurmountable problems, but only by overpowering those who can't see that you are the galaxy's only hope and forcing them to get out of your way. It's for their own good, after all." The tragedy at the end would be when Anakin finally achieved what he wanted, finally proved how much stronger he was than everyone else, he finds that instead of fixing everything and making everyone happy, he has instead destroyed the Jedi Order, killed or alienated the only friends he had ever had, helped bring down the Senate and the Republic, and killed the only person he had ever truly loved, along with the unborn children of theirs she was carrying (or so he thought). That would make the Darth Vader we see in the OT a much more sympathetic character - even despite all the harm he has done, he is still following the same empty dream of solving the galaxy's problems through strength and power, because although deep down he knows he made the wrong choice, he is far too arrogant and self-assured to admit that to himself.
Edited to clarify the last sentence.
Edited to clarify the last sentence.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 8:30 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:25 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I just started TCW, enjoying it so far.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:29 am to Blizzard of Chizz
The Clone Wars and Rebels are fantastic. TCW gives so much more depth to Anakin as a character, and helps to make him look like the great Jedi he was supposed to be. I love when Rex talks about him in season 2 of Rebels and how great of a general Anakin was.
I generally like Episode 3, but agree that the movies did not develop Anakin enough or show him as truly being the great Jedi that he was supposed to be.
I generally like Episode 3, but agree that the movies did not develop Anakin enough or show him as truly being the great Jedi that he was supposed to be.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:14 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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I must say, TCW and Rebels were fantastic,
Clone Wars and Rebels are so good that if you binge watch it, it's like you forget Earth exists and you're watching a historical action adventure drama of the Jedi, the Sith, the republic and the empire and who's who in all of those.
Also, the quality of animation in season 7 of TCW is absolutely incredible and I was floored with how realistic, crisp and sharp it was.
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Ahsoka Tano is perhaps one of the best characters ever introduced. Not only is she a badass, but she provides Anikan with much needed balance to his character.
Right now, she's as powerful if not more powerful than Count Dooku. She crushed the inquisitors when they came after her. They looked like clowns compared to her.
And she is so powerful that Darth Vader had to work really hard to defeat her at Malachor. Likely the toughest fight he's had since Obi-Wan on Mustafar.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:25 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Where Ep 2 and 3 fail miserably, is that Anikan is not likable at all. He's a arrogant douche from the beginning. He's a know it all dickhead, and for the life of me I can't understand how Kenobi ignored those traits and continued to train him.
He was poorly written and awfully portrayed. Very one dimensional--the kind of one dimensional they warn you about in film school.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 12:00 am to Blizzard of Chizz
When does clone wars get good? I’m nearly 20 episodes in, and find it an absolute slog.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:49 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
On season 3, episode 15-17 mini-arc with the Force Wielders.
Now this shite helps put Anakins fall into better perspective. He got a glimpse of his fall.
Now this shite helps put Anakins fall into better perspective. He got a glimpse of his fall.
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