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re: US executes first woman since 1953: a monster named Lisa Montgomery

Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:16 am to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:16 am to
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there have been 14 women since 2000 executed in the U.S. in state systems



feminist trailblazers!

We can murder people every bit as horribly as men!
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:50 am to
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She will probably get the next one as well.
and vote in the next Presidential Election
Posted by Paladin1
Dallas
Member since Oct 2019
104 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:55 am to
I wonder if this idiot thinks 900,000 abortions a year (includes females) is barbaric and is ashamed of the US for these actions...
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:04 am to
Yeah I can't cheer this. We need to get away from capital punishment.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:39 am to
The woman committed a heinous crime and there are multiple victims of that action who have suffered unimaginable agony. However, Montgomery is the product of a society which cares NOTHING about the welfare of children. She was subjected to acts as a child that would be unthinkable in a sick, twisted novel. Gang raped repeatedly from the age of 4 by groups of her step father's "friends" including the step father. Pimped out as a prostitute between the age of 5 and 18 by her mother who also thought proper punishment for unruly children included things like stabbing the family dog to death in front of the kids and chaining the kids nude in the yard in the winter for days on end when they misbehaved. Her mother also sold her several times, apparently.

I do not support the death penalty as it is applied without rhyme or reason and it kills innocent people all to often. There is no doubt of her guilt but when society fails in such a catastrophic manner we should do the right thing and curb our desire for justice and allow some compassion. This woman belonged in an asylum...she was never going to be a member of society and not be a problem....but given her nightmarish life at the hands of people we as humans have to have early in life to protect and nurture us is it too much to ask not to throw her away like so much rubbish?
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:46 am to
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Yes you should lol. WTF else would you do with them? We need way more capital punishment for people who commit unforgivable crimes and no more of this “moral” injection shite either. A hanging is just as humane. My only reservations would be convicting an innocent but to be honest forensic technology is so advanced these days that you can’t really screw someone over through eyewitness testimony anymore.



The hell you can't...if the state is footing the bill for their defense and their prosecution and the revenue is based on their conviction rate it is entirely possible to convict an innocent person based on snitches and eye witness testimony even when the state possesses forensic evidence PROVING the accused is not guilty. Once convicted that person is then charged with overcoming the prejudice Judges who are also part of the prosecuting economy and juries who automatically assume the system works most of the time and the accused must be guilty.

The fact that many people have been exonerated of the capital crimes they were convicted of is all that is needed to know the system is seriously flawed and should be stopped immediately.

And at what point do we start killing the mentally ill??? When they first suffer from the trauma that drives many of them insane? In this case the woman would have been executed at the age of 4.....a society is judged by the way it treats the least capable among us to defend themselves.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62905 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:55 am to
Why was she able to stay in a federal prison?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17770 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:59 am to
What was the method was it the chair I love the chair what do yo tell a mental paitent what you are doing?
You are going to see Santa

Now go sit in Santa’s lap
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 7:02 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:06 am to
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What determines federal vs state in these executions?



She took the baby across state lines... that probably made it a Federal case.

I remember this from the No One Saw A Thing documentary about Skidmore, Missouri. Lots of killing for such a small town.
Posted by JoeNelson
Member since Sep 2019
409 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:09 am to
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With Wednesday's lethal injection, the Trump administration has put 11 people to death over the past seven months, amounting to the most executions in a presidential lame-duck period in more than 130 years.

NBC News =
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mentally incompetent people
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15734 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:19 am to
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We shouldn’t be killing mentally incompetent people

That’s not why she got executed. Plenty of mentally incompetent people in DC.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31478 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:33 am to
frick them

its real simple, is she a threat to society now and in the future...apparently that answer is yes.

Is her mental disorder treatable? apparently the answer is no.

If she is not treatable, is a threat if ever released and then committed a terrible crime like this.....well kill her. No need to cost the tax payers money.

**this is me assuming there was overwhelming evidence, she was found with the baby, and confessed to this**


in general I do not support the government executing anyone as I dont trust the government to not plant evidence as they have earned that trust.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423679 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:35 am to
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She cut a woman's baby out of her womb before murdering her and presenting the child as her own.


Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
40163 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:35 am to
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LB
@beyondreasdoubt
I’m just gutted.
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She cut a woman's baby out of her womb before murdering her and presenting the child as her own. The victim, Bobbie Jo Stinnett, was 23.


Appropo
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423679 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:37 am to
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If she is not treatable, is a threat if ever released and then committed a terrible crime like this.....well kill her. No need to cost the tax payers money.

study after study shows that if we just leave them in jail it ends up costing less
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119548 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:38 am to
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study after study shows that if we just leave them in jail it ends up costing less


Wait. What?
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4049 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:41 am to
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I remember this from the No One Saw A Thing documentary about Skidmore, Missouri. Lots of killing for such a small town.


Don't let the name fool you, it's a pretty shitty little town.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30300 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:41 am to
The cut the baby out thing happened in Livingston parish about 10 years ago too. My mom was a nurse and took care of the mother. The infant died, mother lived.

The guilty man was supposedly on “bath salts’ back when those where a thing. My mom still says it was the most emotionally difficult patient case she ever had. Terrible for the mother that happened to.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31478 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:46 am to
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study after study shows that if we just leave them in jail it ends up costing less


well then, should have left her arse there then. Do you have any links to those studies, would like to read them.

if true, another reason why we shouldnt do capital punishement.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:49 am to
A large number of people who love the death penalty also don’t trust the govt to run an election
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