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Chief Justice John Roberts...You are now irrelevant
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:13 am
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:15 am to deltaland
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You are now irrelevant
He's probably thrilled.
Whoever has a hold on him doesn't anymore.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:18 am to Tiger985
quote:Good Lord
Whoever has a hold on him doesn't anymore.
If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.
You just want him to be ideological, so you create a Grishamesque fantasy/conspiracy to "explain" rulings that you do not like. All the while INSISTING that you do not want an ideological judge, but rather a Strict Constructionist.
Sad.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:20 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:19 am to Tiger985
Even better is if he votes in the minority then Thomas gets to assign who writes the majority opinion since he is the senior justice.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:21 am to deltaland
Not only does he have to create a new legal fiction for the upcoming Obamacare case but he has to recruit another justice to concur with him.
He’s got a lot to do.
He’s got a lot to do.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:21 am to MFn GIMP
He sided with the conservative justices on a Wisconsin vote ruling.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:21 am to deltaland
This.
I’m so glad he can’t limelight as the great savior of the Courts honor. He’s a self righteous prick. Now nobody cares how he votes or thinks.
I’m so glad he can’t limelight as the great savior of the Courts honor. He’s a self righteous prick. Now nobody cares how he votes or thinks.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:22 am to deltaland
Shannon Bream on Fox News made an interesting point about Roberts last night. The addition of ACB to the Court may actually result in Roberts siding with the conservatives more than he would have before RGB passed. With ACB there, he can no longer be a swing vote in most cases where the vote is split along conservative/liberal lines. With his ability to be a swing vote gone, there is still a way that he can sort of have his say in the Court’s opinions: if he is in the majority, he gets to choose who writes the opinion for the majority. Thus, in the big, controversial cases he would be able to assign the opinion writing responsibility to himself. Writing the opinion in these cases gives him a lot of power to his interpret things as narrowly or as broadly as he wants, as long as he stay with the overall decision of the majority as to whether something is constitutional/unconstitutional. Now, his ability to do this would be somewhat limited because he would still need to get a majority of the justices to sign on to his opinion.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:25 am to AggieHank86
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If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.
https://noqreport.com/2019/07/02/john-roberts-consistently-inconsistent/
How many articles on Roberts' inconsistency would you like to peruse?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am to Flats
quote:Something from an outlet that is not teetering on the precipice of falling completely OFF the right edge of the political spectrum would be nice.
How many articles on Roberts' inconsistency would you like to peruse? ("NOQ Report")
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
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they are almost uniformly-consistent.
Outside of a few big cases, his voting record is almost completely in line with the conservatives wing of the court. I will never understand his logic in Sebelius however.
For a swing vote, he swings way more conservative than Kennedy did.
Not that I'm a huge fan, but it is a little disingenuous by people to make him out to be some huge hidden liberal when you actually look at a totality of his opinions and not just a select few.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am to AggieHank86
quote:
If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am to AggieHank86
quote:
If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.
he had 2 very big 180s this year on major cases, iirc
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:30 am to AggieHank86
quote:
hey are almost uniformly-consistent
Huh. That's not saying anything at all.
Honey stop.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:32 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Something from an outlet that is not teetering on the precipice of falling completely OFF the right edge of the political spectrum would be nice.
Sure.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/27/john-roberts-strikes-again-conservatives-should-be-furious/
And besides your personal bloviating you've provided.......?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:33 am to AlxTgr
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AlxTgr
Don't laugh, Hank takes his contrarian role quite seriously.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:34 am to AggieHank86
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If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.
Are you serious?
He twisted the argument into their (Democrats) favor on the Obamacare individual mandate vote.
Democrats were calling it a fee, HE CHANGED it to a tax all on his own and then used the argument that the government is allowed to tax.
Did you miss that?
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
quote:Hey here is a thought why not link your own data?
Something from an outlet that is not teetering on the precipice of falling completely OFF the right edge of the political spectrum would be nice.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
How can you say his rulings are uniformly-consistent when he flipped on the ACA between argument and the opinion after Obama dressed the Court down at a SOTU.
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