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re: CoVids Impact on Flu
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:25 am to Capstone2017
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:25 am to Capstone2017
Have you ever done a simple google search?
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Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols, with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:27 am to BottomlandBrew
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Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets
Bolded a few key words for the tards
No go reread the mask mandate. Surgical masks to N95 masks mandated? NOPE. Droplets given as reason...NOPE
also those studies assume CONSTANT mask changing. Is that specified? NOPE.
Are people doing all these things? NOPE.
So...the mask reasoning is out
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:29 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:27 am to SlidellCajun
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People complain that masks don’t prevent covid but they sure do prevent the flu and colds. I will wear mine during cold and flu season every year now.
I think it’s cool
Why? You believe in the mask theory? If so, tell me what the experts say regarding the science of wearing a mask.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:27 am to theunknownknight
at you misinformed idiot thinking hospitals are raking in the dough cause of COVID Hospitals are LOSING massive amounts of money due to COVID. Hospitals hate this pandemic just like the rest of us do. All the additional PPE that has to be used now. Additional staffing for visitor screening at entrances. Testing costs, etc to screen patients going to surgery, etc. Construction costs needed to convert units to negative pressure units for COVID patients needed ICU care in a negative pressure area. Paying additional staff/companies for increased cleaning of areas. And multiple other costs that hospitals have to pay (and likely NOT get fully reimbursed for) because of COVID.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:31 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:29 am to lsunurse
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at you misinformed idiot thinking hospitals are raking in the dough cause of COVID
I write the code for providers to submit this to CMS. Take your ignorance elsewhere
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Hospitals are LOSING massive amounts of money due to COVID.
Yes...because of the RESPONSE. Not the virus.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:30 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:30 am to Roscoe
COVID met the flu at Sonic. Now, the flu don't come round here no more.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:30 am to Roscoe
Just my general observation working with the public and with kids, I think the focus on the elevation of basic hygiene practices (like hand washing) that a lot of people weren't doing (gross) beforehand is a big mechanism for mitigating the flu.
And social distancing. I wouldn't be remotely sad if distancing stayed in effect in places like grocery store lines or in certain settings where we don't need to be on top of each other.
And social distancing. I wouldn't be remotely sad if distancing stayed in effect in places like grocery store lines or in certain settings where we don't need to be on top of each other.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:35 am to BottomlandBrew
I’m not sure of what “side” you’re on - but I read the first study and it clearly states cloth masks should not be mandated and “somewhat” only work against droplets if
- double layered
- water resistant
- constantly changed
To which - no one is doing
- double layered
- water resistant
- constantly changed
To which - no one is doing
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:36 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:46 am to theunknownknight
none of that matters.
They make people feel safe.
And as an added bonus they can feel like they are protecting other people too.
They make people feel safe.
And as an added bonus they can feel like they are protecting other people too.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:47 am to lsunurse
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Hospitals are LOSING massive amounts of money due to COVID. Hospitals hate this pandemic just like the rest of us do.
Oh look, this stupid argument again.
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All the additional PPE that has to be used now. Additional staffing for visitor screening at entrances. Testing costs, etc to screen patients going to surgery, etc. Construction costs needed to convert units to negative pressure units for COVID patients needed ICU care in a negative pressure area. Paying additional staff/companies for increased cleaning of areas. And multiple other costs that hospitals have to pay (and likely NOT get fully reimbursed for) because of COVID.
There is no incentive for hospitals to keep their reported numbers down, as it is abundantly clear that actual hospitalization numbers have literally no impact on the response to the virus, despite all the 2 weeks to flatten the curve bullshite and your failed fear-mongering about hospitalizations in Phoenix over the course of several weeks.
Hospitals were going to have to add those expenses regardless. It makes total and complete sense they’re going to do whatever possible to recover as much of those costs as possible, including inflating their reported covid numbers that they get paid more money for.
Stop financially incentivizing hospitals to report covid numbers and see if that has any impact on their numbers.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:49 am to theunknownknight
I am not on any political "side," if that's what you're asking. I'm on "side" open the economy up but still wear masks and be smart about it until we get the vaccine. I wish we could do that without mandates, but we have portions of the population incapable of making that happen.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:51 am to TSmith
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I would think that all of the precautions and social distancing going on right now for covid is having a massive positive impact on the spread of the flu.
Shouldn't it then, per the CDC, also have the same impact on Covid? If you believe the fear mongering of the CDC, Covid is still spreading like hotcakes for at least 3 more weeks. So does that mean that masks and social distancing are bullshite? CDC said 85% of Covid cases wore masks and social distanced.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:52 am to BottomlandBrew
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I wish we could do that without mandates, but we have portions of the population incapable of making that happen.
Are you in favor of big government making mandates because they don't do what you want?
Are you prepared for the end of Covid, come November/December?
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:54 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:57 am to BottomlandBrew
That chart is completely wrong, but okay.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:57 am to BottomlandBrew
Pretty convenient that all the 2020 studies "show" that masks (specifically cloth masks and surgical masks) work when much of the pre-2020 work couldn't find a REDUCTION IN INFECTION, including those authored by folks that had pre-2020 studies that "showed" they didn't really work.
My sentence is poorly constructed.
My sentence is poorly constructed.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 7:58 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:00 am to lsunurse
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They are not. Flu has been tracked separately for several years by local and state public health departments and this data goes up to CDC. Considering you can run tests for the flu on the same sample collected for COVID....it’s very easy to separate the data.
Would it not also be very easy NOT to separate the data or artificially manipulate the data....especially at the micro-levels.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:04 am to Roscoe
Take Vitamin C and D you bums.
We shouldn't be acting like every winter is some plague.
We shouldn't be acting like every winter is some plague.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:04 am to Roscoe
Social distancing, especially school closures, is having an impact but that doesn't account for a 97% drop (which seems impossible).
My take based on anecdotal evidence, someone who gets flu like symptoms right now is going to either isolate or go get a covid test. If they test negative for covid they'll assume the test was wrong or have gotten better in a short amount of time so who cares at that point.
My take based on anecdotal evidence, someone who gets flu like symptoms right now is going to either isolate or go get a covid test. If they test negative for covid they'll assume the test was wrong or have gotten better in a short amount of time so who cares at that point.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:05 am to Roscoe
90,000 Americans die from the flu annually on average and may peak at 220,000. So, here we are.
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