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re: CoVids Impact on Flu

Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18648 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Lol yeah ok. Mask don't prevent the flu. If it did then they would have been using for years
Mother fricker other countries that actually respect science HAVE been using masks for the flu for decades!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95817 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Mother fricker other countries that actually respect science HAVE been using masks for the flu for decades!
And they have no better flu rates (most have worse)


So......
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24054 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:59 am to
Has this been posted in here yet?

Recently published in sometimes questionable journal The Lancet.

quote:

During the 2009 pandemic of an emerging influenza A virus (IAV; H1N1pdm09), data from several European countries indicated that the spread of the virus might have been interrupted by the annual autumn rhinovirus epidemic.


quote:

These findings show that one respiratory virus can block infection with another through stimulation of antiviral defences in the airway mucosa, supporting the idea that interference from rhinovirus disrupted the 2009 IAV pandemic in Europe. These results indicate that viral interference can potentially affect the course of an epidemic, and this possibility should be considered when designing interventions for seasonal influenza epidemics and the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.





Our natural defenses have been raised because of SARS 2.0.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83613 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:13 am to
I posted it earlier but it wasn't well received

Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
1277 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:07 pm to
First off tone your tude down. Second I don't believe Jack the cdc says or corrupt scientists. Quit being so gullible. Open your eyes and see what is going on. Its all about the election. Sensoring conservatives, shutting down youtube channels for no reason. Only an idiot or a blind person doesn't see what is going on. This virus was created to stop trump from winning again. But it won't work trump is playing chess against these democrats playing checkers.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3018 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:03 pm to
If you do what you are supposed to for Covid, how do you get the flu? Covid is more contagious and between mask, hand washing, and distance the flu is a non story this year.
Posted by skinnytrees
REC Check Writing Office
Member since Sep 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:06 pm to
Just imagine being a person that thinks hospital workers actually wore masks around before this and even now most aren't doing it because it is a waste.

To claim the reason for hospitals in surgery situations wearing masks is why we need to wear masks is the dumbest take away of all of this.

No doctor has ever just gone around checking on people with a mask you coronabro retards.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:07 pm to
Since no one replied to my question I will ask again....

Can you be asymptotic for CIVID and have symptoms for the Flu and be positive for both at the same time?

How would you know?
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24364 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:22 pm to
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But we're talking about flu cases being down by 97%, not flu deaths.


Low hanging fruit eliminated from covid would have spread the flu at a high rate to others in their social groups, places of gathering or in a lot of cases nursing homes.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6557 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:33 pm to
Oh yes, the government saved us from ourselves! Such a generous entity!

Thank you JBE for keeping us safe!

This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Mother fricker other countries that actually respect science HAVE been using masks for the flu for decades!

Respect Muh Science!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28710 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:08 pm to
quote:





Hey guess what: the Czech Republic didn't actually implement that mask mandate in September because there was an election coming up.


"Oof", indeed.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43343 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Hey guess what: the Czech Republic didn't actually implement that mask mandate in September


Ya, they did.

quote:

10th September 2020
Confirmed: Masks are back inside in the whole Czech Republic

As a response to the deteriorating epidemiological situation in the Czech Republic, wearing a mask inside is mandatory from Thursday, September 10, in the whole Czech Republic.

The public indoor spaces include the public transport, shops, public offices, post offices, indoor events (regardless of the number of participants), common areas at schools, workplaces (if the 2-metre distance cannot be ensured), public offices and restaurants (if you are not consuming food).

From September 9, Prague’s restaurants and bars have to be closed between midnight and 06:00.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28710 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Ya, they did.

Nah.
quote:

But when the then-Health Minister Adam Vojtech announced masks would again become compulsory in most indoor spaces, Babis said no. A day later, Vojtech walked back many of the new rules. Madar resigned a few days later.



Masks were very unpopular the first time around, so Babis raised a lot of the restrictions (and people probably didn't follow what was left in place anyway). So then toward the end of September he began begging people to follow the rules, but it was too late.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43343 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:30 pm to
Where is your quote from? And what rules were walked back?

Odd, considering every single news report said they did. To include CNN.

ETA: I see you're busting out the crawfish moves.

"They didn't have a mandate in place."

"Well, there was a mandate, but it was restricted and no one followed it."

What's the next crawfish?

This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28710 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Where is your quote from?
That particular one was here, but if you care to look there are very many articles about how Babis rejected the September recs.
quote:

Odd, considering every single news report said they did. To include CNN.
That is what was reported when the Health Minister announced it. Babis scaled them back.
quote:

ETA: I see you're busting out the crawfish moves.

"They didn't have a mandate in place."

"Well, there was a mandate, but it was restricted and no one followed it."

What's the next crawfish?


Any sort of clarification is called "crawfishing", eh?

Let's be clear: the Czech Republic did NOT implement the same mask mandates in September that they did in the spring, nor were the other rules as strict.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43343 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
Your original post:

quote:

Hey guess what: the Czech Republic didn't actually implement that mask mandate in September because there was an election coming up.


But they actually did implement a mask mandate in September.

I still am waiting to see exactly what was scaled back. Your article has zero details.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28710 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

But they actually did implement a mask mandate in September.
A mask mandate, maybe. Who knows how lax it was? As you've noted, details are sparse. If there were details about the actual rules, who knows how well they were followed? All we know is that Babis rejected the initial rules in September because they were unpopular and he was up for re-election.

The only thing that is certain is that the chart is highly misleading, as it was designed to be. The spring and September marks are not comparable.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7327 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:05 pm to
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A mask mandate, maybe. Who knows how lax it was? As you've noted, details are sparse. If there were details about the actual rules, who knows how well they were followed? All we know is that Babis rejected the initial rules in September because they were unpopular and he was up for re-election.


That's not what you're arguing. You said there wasn't a mask mandate. He said there was. frick wondering how it was enforced.

I'm tired of this argument that the population is to blame. "Nobody is taking this seriously!"

You go fricking sit at home with your lack of rent/mortgage and feel like you're making a difference by not sitting in a starbucks or going to the movies. We have shite to do.

Perhaps this is an old fashioned purge of the weak? and whatever measures are implemented will help the strong and do nothing for the weak? Why is that so difficult to consider? I certainly don't want that, but maybe that is what this is.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28710 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

Centinel
Look, I know that you have to believe what you do because everyone has to "pick a side" these days. I get it. But when you read articles posted Sept 9th and 10th that say the mask mandates are "back", those are reports on what the Health Minister announced, when he announced it. Every article after those dates talk about how they were not implemented as announced, mostly at the urging of Babis, with a lot of talk about the October election.
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