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re: WBRZ: BRPD releases sequence of events in Trader Joe’s shooting
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:32 pm to dragginass
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:32 pm to dragginass
quote:
So where's the actual affidavit? All we have is what some reporter interpreted. The dude may be guilty, but that's a shite article.
Journalism today is the pits. Most of these reporters couldn’t write on my HS paper.
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:33 pm to The Pirate King
If this is what happened, I hope they throw the book at him. Making all of us CCWers look bad. He shouldn't have stepped back out once he went into his vehicle unless the guy was attacking the woman. That said, it is very possible that it went down differently than this report.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:34 pm to doubleb
Who hangs around after a misfire and reload? The panhandler who was allegedly unarmed should have headed for the hills after the first click. Not what one would expect; thus, it must be incomplete or inaccurate.
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:34 pm to The Pirate King
this reads like someone with an agenda is giving me a summary of the affidavit
it's possible that Jace Boyd is the psychopath he's portrayed as in this article, but if this turns out to be a completely lopsided account of what happens, then the author, Jeremy Krail, needs to be held accountable
it's possible that Jace Boyd is the psychopath he's portrayed as in this article, but if this turns out to be a completely lopsided account of what happens, then the author, Jeremy Krail, needs to be held accountable
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:34 pm to X123F45
quote:
I'm not saying he is or isn't crazy, is or isn't guilty, but that part doesn't make any sense.
Everything about this story is confusing.
* Early details state a guy walking with his wife/girlfriend shot an aggressive panhandler.
* Account from the woman in the parking lot is completely different from the initial story. She wasn't associated with the shooter and didn't feel overly harassed by the panhandler.
* The shooter was supposedly trying to run the guy off and ended up pulling the trigger in self-defense.
* Now a story about how the shooter exited his truck to confront the man. It makes him out to be a gunslinger with a faulty weapon.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:34 pm to The Pirate King
quote:Must have been a hi pernt.
The report says Boyd pointed the gun at the victim and tried to shoot, but his gun misfired.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:35 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
Let’s get all The facts and deets On the beggar before we canonize him. Or at least find out how the confrontation unfolded.
Nobody here is canonizing the homeless guy. He probably was mentally ill or a junkie or both.
The character of the deceased isn’t the question, the question is did the shooter have a legal reason to shoot the guy.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:36 pm to Centinel
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Ya, I'd reserve judgement until the actual document is made public.
I trust journalists about as much as I trust politicians.
This is 100% true. I've only had a handful of new worthy incidents in my life that made the paper that I've been a part of directly or indirectly, but The Advocate has gotten the details wrong in each of them.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:36 pm to The Pirate King
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This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 1:04 am
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:36 pm to The Pirate King
Damn Antifa!
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:38 pm to therick711
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Who hangs around after a misfire and reload? The panhandler who was allegedly unarmed should have headed for the hills after the first click. Not what one would expect thus it must be incomplete or inaccurate.
So if the report is accurate (we don’t know if it is), it’s the deceased’s fault for not running away and not the shooter’s fault?
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:38 pm to The Pirate King
Based on this, it don't sound good for Jace, but it also sounds like some critical details are missing from the story. I'm not willing to pass judgment based on a news story. After all, I also listened to the national ABC news tell me last night that Rittenhouse opened fire on peaceful protesters for no reason. They conveniently left out the facts that the protesters chased and assaulted Rittenhouse or that one of them was armed.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:38 pm to Bmath
Not to mention I haven't had a first round misfire in at least 10 years 
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:39 pm to doubleb
Your inference skills are hilariously bad. The correct conclusion is in my post. Learn to read.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:43 pm to Bmath
quote:
* Early details state a guy walking with his wife/girlfriend shot an aggressive panhandler.
* Account from the woman in the parking lot is completely different from the initial story. She wasn't associated with the shooter and didn't feel overly harassed by the panhandler.
* The shooter was supposedly trying to run the guy off and ended up pulling the trigger in self-defense.
* Now a story about how the shooter exited his truck to confront the man. It makes him out to be a gunslinger with a faulty weapon.
The initial story is often wrong. That’s today’s journalism. Did they quote any witnesses? The cops? Any visual evidence?
The woman only knows what happened to her. After that she said she only heard a shot. She didn’t see the actual event.
Again we’re there any witnesses quoted? Did the original reporters know what really happened?
This last story may be correct, but it too lacks proof. Where’s the beef?
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:47 pm to saintsfan22
quote:The looters have ironically made the police look like the good guys, but to answer your question, no you shouldn’t believe the police.
So now we're not supposed to believe the police?
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:48 pm to doubleb
quote:
Nobody here is canonizing the homeless guy. He probably was mentally ill or a junkie or both.
The character of the deceased isn’t the question, the question is did the shooter have a legal reason to shoot the guy.
Well the character of the dead guy should help establish credibility of his behavior before and during this incident which is pertinent to the actions of the shooter.
its gonna definitely affect how I feel about the shooter claiming he was a threat To him or his wife.
So yeah, I think it should be discussed.
And I wasn’t suggesting anyone here was knighting for the beggar, but the media has gone to great
Lengths to stop calling him an aggressive panhandler. I find that odd, since people here were saying that he was and the media was too- originally.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:50 pm to doubleb
quote:
So if the report is accurate (we don’t know if it is), it’s the deceased’s fault for not running away and not the shooter’s fault?
I don't think that is what the poster was trying to say. I think he meant that if that report was accurate, the guy would have been shot in the back, not the stomach. I can say, if someone pulls a gun on me and pulls the trigger and it jams.....by the time he was ready to fire again, he would be aiming at my back and from a lot further away.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:53 pm to The Pirate King
Hero
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:54 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:
I don't think that is what the poster was trying to say. I think he meant that if that report was accurate, the guy would have been shot in the back, not the stomach. I can say, if someone pulls a gun on me and pulls the trigger and it jams.....by the time he was ready to fire again, he would be aiming at my back and from a lot further away.
These mentally ill people aren’t like you and me, I could easily see the guy not running. In fact he might have gotten pissed and came after the shooter after the misfire.
The article isn’t good. I’m not saying it’s a slam dunk here, but I’d be reluctant to make an assumption without the facts.
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