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Difference in HVAC Prices

Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:25 pm
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:25 pm
Posted in the H/G board, figured more people are here though.

AC is busted, and no piece is newer than 17 years old. Got some quotes today, all for 5 ton 16 seer system either Rheem/Ruud or Carrier, 80% gas furnace, everything replaced up to plenum. I'm looking at

$9700 (Rebel)
$8700 (Climate AC)
$6400 (PVT Air out of Holden, a rec)

Two more arriving tomorrow. What's the thought on these prices? The $6400 jumps out as so much lower, but Brian Cass the self owner was very informative and knowledgeable, wondering why such the big price difference. Any suggestions?
Posted by WM_Tiger
NELA
Member since May 2017
1577 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:27 pm to
My best friend owns an HVAC company. I was concerned about what brand I wanted him to put in for me and he said, “ cold air is cold air, as long as I warranty the work and system you’re good”. So I’d say go with the cheaper system and make sure they have a good warranty.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29491 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:28 pm to
Congrats on the huge house .
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120412 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:29 pm to
Its hard to stop a TRANE
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2965 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:30 pm to
Just had a 5 ton Trane unit installed wIth heater and receiver unit for $5200.00.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20524 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:30 pm to
Huge profit margin in AC systems so you are doing the right thing by getting bids.
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:31 pm to
Ha, it's 2400 SF and 30 years old. I ain't one if these baws running dual units.
Posted by EveryonesACoach
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
864 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:35 pm to
That's what I was leaning. So far all the same 1 year labor, 10 year parts warranty. None of these guys are probably so bad at installs that anything would show up in the first year. Want to make sure I have a quality install. If it wasn't for the rec, the much cheaper price might be more of a red flag.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56111 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:42 pm to
I would just ask them why they are so much lower...they might be gonna do as much as some of the others. For instance, some may plan to use the old copper and others aren’t, or some may be going to take your new unit apart, while others are planning to drop the ladder to your attic and bring the unit up without taking it apart. I’ve always heard a good bit of how the unit performs depends on the installation.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19856 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:58 pm to
Installed my own 3 ton electric in April for 3200
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1895 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:01 pm to
$6,400 sounds like a fair price. That’s solid equipment and at that price it allows the guy to make a fair profit. The other two are going to do the same thing just make $4-$5,000 profit
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:30 pm to
Call Dream Team. They are the best. Tell him his BIL sent you
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
21587 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

wondering why such the big price difference


It's well over 100F in attics these days. If the guy that sets the price is doing the work it's higher than the guy that has kid apprentices taking shortcuts on the install.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82369 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:38 pm to
Let me give you another recommendation...Central Heating and Air, this is who I always recommend in these threads and have had 2 posters start threads over the years thanking me. They are a Trane distributor and have yet to see anybody beat their prices.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:44 pm to
Anything below 9k is a decent price. Check on the service plans, warranty, etc...
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3169 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 6:21 am to
Are they replacing the distribution ducts? If so are they using the cheaper done flexible tubes or are they making sheet metal runs to every room?

New thermostat?

Replacing the copper lines? They are switching genotypes so indefensible be replaced or properly flushed.

New drain pan?

New heater exhaust ducting?



I highly recommend a two speed or variable speed unit. At high demand times it will run on high speed. On cooler days or at night, it will run on lower speed. Much more consistent temps in the house.





Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24677 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 6:26 am to
op, you’re gonna want to check that they replace the ducts after the fact. Especially that low ball.

Duct work ain’t cheap.


As far as “cold air is cold air’,’ Find the coldest air at meter pole.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7160 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 6:32 am to
quote:

Ha, it's 2400 SF and 30 years old. I ain't one if these baws running dual units.




a 5 ton unit is more than you need for 2400 sq ft. You want the system to fit the house because you actually want it to run enough to ventilate and "condition" the house. They should be using Manual J load calculations which takes into consideration lots of factors like size, insulation, roofing, siding, window type and direction most windows and doors face, etc

edit to say that it's often wise to avoid a contractor that is way lower than others, but if that one contractor is a guy, a helper, and a work van and the other guys are business men or wannabe businessmen with hourly installers, nice building with offices and overhead, and several crews with new vans and trucks, then the difference is obvious. In a case like that you often get a better contractor with the guy that has a helper and a van and works from home. Check with your county inspectors. They may not be supposed to recommend contractors but privately they often will give you a list of 2 or 3 names. At least require references and check them out. Course, a crook will give you references that are often friends and family that he hasn't yet ripped off.
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 6:43 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119510 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 7:44 am to
I had both units replaced in 2015, 2.5 ton, inside and outside, cost me $8600. Trane 14 seer.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1968 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 7:47 am to
Look at this 5 ton Goodman 10yr warranty condenser and coil for $2200. What’s labor to install these 2, $150 at 10hrs? Probably can do it in 5. No reason to pay more than 4K. Is your furnace even broke?

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