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Poltico Article on Relief

Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:27 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:27 am
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White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Sunday reiterated that the Trump administration and Senate Republicans won't extend a $600 boost in unemployment benefits in a forthcoming coronavirus relief package.

In an interview on ABC's "This Week," Meadows argued the original unemployment insurance measure, which has begun expiring, shouldn't be extended because it "paid people to stay home" and disincentivized unemployed people from finding work. The administration has instead pushed for an unemployment provision that would replace up to 70 percent of workers' wages.




Well you guys are getting what you want. I'm happy people are getting 70 % of their previous income.

Our country has a long way to go even despite this. My biggest problem with this effort is that it assumes that everyone is not looking for work and just collecting unemployment. While that is a concern, most people know unemployment is temporary. It was never going to last forever.

I don't believe the economy will just restart back to what it was pre-covid. Multiple industries have been gutted and jobs with them. I understand you all like to act like tough-guy conservatives, but reality isn't always black and white.

Many people lost jobs by no fault of their own. Red and Blue states have suffered from this. Why can't you all see that the damage has been bipartisan and that our solutions need to consider the possibility that economic growth will probably be slow until we reach closure with Covid and move forward.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 5:32 am
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:42 am to
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While that is a concern, most people know unemployment is temporary. It was never going to last forever.
People say that but then scream whenever you actually try to, you know, end it.

And fear not anyhow. Republicans “opening offer” was $200/wk rather than $600. But we all know they’ll give in and it’ll wind up being $600. Maybe $595 to save face.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:46 am to
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I don't believe the economy will just restart back to what it was pre-covid. Multiple industries have been gutted and jobs with them. I understand you all like to act like tough-guy conservatives, but reality isn't always black and white.

Many people lost jobs by no fault of their own. Red and Blue states have suffered from this. Why can't you all see that the damage has been bipartisan and that our solutions need to consider the possibility that economic growth will probably be slow until we reach closure with Covid and move forward.



One side is literally trying to open states and the economy back to get any kind of momentum going the other wants to keep it completely shut down for political reasons.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11445 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:04 am to
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understand you all like to act like tough-guy conservatives, but reality isn't always black and white.


No, life is rarely black and white. But this $600 a week from the government was encouraging more workers to stay at home than go back to work. I have numerous clients who couldn't get their employees to come back after they reopened. I really don't blame them with state and federal unemployment checks totaling $900 a week.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
23658 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:09 am to
I think we can all agree that $600 was far too generous, from what I understand the new HEROES act will add $200, until, states can compensate for 70% of total income
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58197 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:11 am to
Chuck Schumer said on the radio this morning,” The Republicans are taking $1,600 out of your pockets!”
WTH!!
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67508 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:18 am to
Welp back to work baws
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3309 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:21 am to
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Many people lost jobs by no fault of their own.


They lost their jobs BECAUSE of state and federal efforts to destroy the economy. Jobs were lost BECAUSE of governmental interference and shut down of the United States economy. The ultimate responsibility of destroying jobs lies with our government representatives. Period!
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5513 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:22 am to
Tens of millions of people have lost real careers.

“I saw Walmart was hiring here, you lazy bastards!”

same people:

“Jobs at Walmart and McDonalds are not careers!”

The government, in it’s infinite wisdom, shut down the employment of tens of millions of people, at NO fault of their own, with no sign of when it will reopen. It’s on the government to make it right to these people.
Posted by BertusTiger
The Bayou City
Member since Oct 2014
394 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:37 am to
I legit think $350 would be a good compromise
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13504 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:02 am to
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My biggest problem with this effort is that it assumes that everyone is not looking for work and just collecting unemployment.

In my own family, I advised a member to not seek work because this government check was more than pay. This is common and we all know it..
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I don't believe the economy will just restart back to what it was pre-covid.

Of course it will. It will be a little different and a little bumpy. But supply is down and demand is up. A powerful recovery is certain.
quote:

I understand you all like to act like tough-guy conservatives,

This is far better and more effective than acting like a powerless victim pussy!
quote:

Why can't you all see that the damage has been bipartisan and that our solutions need to consider the possibility that economic growth will probably be slow until we reach closure with Covid and move forward.

Sooo...
You want to return to the Obama lost economic decade?
NO THANKS!

MAGA on!
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 7:05 am
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2640 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:41 am to
As a business attorney, I can tell you from first-hand experience that my clients have offered people their jobs back once they received PPP funds only to be told no. And it’s a good percentage of them that this has happened to.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34083 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:45 am to
I havent had an application for kitchen staff in 3 weeks. I have received 2 in the past two months. Other restaurant managers I know have similar experiences
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2311 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:49 am to
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reality isn't always black


You are so racist.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24978 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:08 am to
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Why can't you all see that the damage has been bipartisan 
That's rich.

You've been here a long time, and seen so many of us, the overwhelming majority, constantly bash the globalist uniparty.

95% of Congress, on both sides, needs to walk off a pier and forget how to swim.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423649 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:12 am to
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I'm happy people are getting 70 % of their previous income.


the irony is this is pretty much the standard policy of Europe during this whole crisis, which was praised by our media as the way to handle CV-19...and i bet you 100 SFP dollars that they criticize this plan being implemented in the US
Posted by JoseVargasTX
Heath, TX
Member since Sep 2011
719 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:40 am to
I’m offering skilled tradesmen jobs paying $26-32 an hour and being told—

“No thanks. The $1,100 I’m making for sitting at home works out well for me.”

Not talking about five offerings here. I’m talking about hundreds of offerings and no takers.

End the extra payments now!
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