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re: How can our schools allow kids to move on/graduate?

Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:37 am to
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:37 am to
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this is specifically for LA, as we have had uneven teaching efforts varying by parish to parish (or hell, school to school within the parish). many students have lost half a school year entirely. we aren't doing exit/graduation exams.

how in the hell can we pass these kids along?


Superintendents and teachers are basically shouting to the world right now that what they do isn't important.
They don't view themselves as educators but as processing center administrators.

Don't call yourself a professional educator and then tell me that even if its now safe to open the school, you don't want to do it because it would be a lot of trouble and nothing happens at school in May anyway.

If you are a teacher and can't profitably spend 3 or 4 weeks with kids at school if it's not in service of a standardized test, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:37 am to
Again it isn't counted in the 9 weeks of instructional time, the semester is actually 10 weeks long counting Easter.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:37 am to
quote:

A few AP tests if you are taking those courses for college credit was about it.


Yep, even in the 90's, I had 1 english class to finish but took 3 other electives that I never went to anyway.
Got to school about 7:30 and out the door by 9am, on my way to work
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 8:38 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51513 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:37 am to
quote:

they lost 3 weeks of essential schooling....


It'll be more like 8-10 weeks when it is all over.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2496 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:37 am to
If you take out testing days, Louisiana schools will lose about 30 days of instruction or 180 hours. If you take out parties, programs, field trips and field days it is probably more like 25 days of instruction. There is some distance learning going on that recoups some of that.

During Katrina students in the NO area lost more. During the 2016 students in LP that had to double on school sites lost about the same.

During Katrina and Flood years students still progressed and graduated.

Sad thing is any kid in 3 grade or higher in the BR area has lost a semester of instruction in the last 4 years from the Flood and Pandemic.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29345 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:39 am to
I said the same thing a couple of days ago and was crucified by the masses because:

A) It wasn't half a year

and

B) The last 6-9 weeks of school doesn't matter....this was a new revelation to me. It matters for sure to my 1st grader in catholic school and she is getting her work done.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:39 am to
Nah....
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51513 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:39 am to
quote:

B) The last 6-9 weeks of school doesn't matter....this was a new revelation to me.


That is also news to me.

The last week or so never mattered. But I'm pretty sure I was getting serious schooling 6 weeks before the end of the year.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Again it isn't counted in the 9 weeks of instructional time, the semester is actually 10 weeks long counting Easter.



My sons teacher and I counted the days of essential instructional days minus the testing days/half days and Spring Break and we came up with 14 days...bc they actually got 6 days off for Spring Break instead of 5
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
Member since Aug 2018
3490 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:42 am to
My son had good grades and has been accepted to UT. Good for him for getting the next few months off. No one is hurting over this academically. I do feel bad for those kids who relied on school for a good meal and air conditioning but that’s it.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:42 am to
quote:

this is specifically for LA, as we have had uneven teaching efforts varying by parish to parish (or hell, school to school within the parish). many students have lost half a school year entirely. we aren't doing exit/graduation exams.

how in the hell can we pass these kids along?

Hopefully, they can get out at least knowing how to capitalize.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29725 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:42 am to
What about the teachers though ??? Hope they’re well rested after 6 months off come August
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72400 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:43 am to
quote:

No one is hurting over this academically.
Not everyone is a senior.

What about all of the younger grades?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:43 am to
Fine no point in arguing, telling you how it should be. Each semester should have 45 days of instructional days. Every parish I've worked in that is how it has been done and holidays don't count as instructional days. But hey that parish is obviously different since holidays count as instructional days.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:43 am to
quote:

No one is hurting over this academically. 


If that's true, then the school year should always be shorter.

This thing is exposing a lot of nonsense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425808 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:44 am to
capitalized OPs are for super serious threads only. usually with links and editorial comment included
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35700 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:44 am to
My guy this thread is coming off like it was written by a high schooler who has yet to realize how unimportant high school is in the grand scheme.

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:44 am to
quote:

quote:
2nd half of senior years didn't have much going on anyway.
What about every other grade?




Not missing anything that they will miss - or anything they can't cover in a couple weeks at the start of next year.

Parents can help their students get the basics for what they need while they miss. Those with good family situations will have a distinct advantage - but that is the exact same as every other year of school.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 8:49 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
35048 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:45 am to
quote:

if you take schooling even somewhat serious,


does anybody?

I remember after Katrina we were missing like 3 months of my senior year, and everybody just collectively said "frick it"

It left me wondering why we don't always do it that way

Or at the very least, why we don't examine the process that has been in place for decades despite the world around school changing drastically
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9726 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:45 am to
quote:

how in the hell can we pass these kids along?


I'm honestly only worried about my kids.
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