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re: How can our schools allow kids to move on/graduate?

Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:15 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:15 am to
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I'm saying you take the kids who moved up a grade

how are we determining this?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:16 am to
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. many students have lost half a school year entirely. we aren't doing exit/graduation exams.

how in the hell can we pass these kids along?


I want to know why i'm not getting a tax refund for public schools being closed? Oh, because tax and spend liberal is in charge.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 9:17 am
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
21348 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:17 am to
Yeah bro. Those who take education serious haven’t had the opportunity to learn remotely. They are doomed. Might as well get them cardboard and a marker now.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:17 am to
There's really no justifiable argument against either starting school early next year or finishing late, assumes JBE let's school happen at all.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29800 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:18 am to
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Am I supposed to respond to such an absurd statement in some way?

No but you clearly don’t understand how important fundamental foundational concepts are for learning. You learn them and imprint them. Come back from break and do a refresher then right into building on those concepts. It’s important.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:19 am to
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No but you clearly don’t understand how important fundamental foundational concepts are for learning. You learn them and imprint them. Come back from break and do a refresher then right into building on those concepts. It’s important.


Judging by Facebook comments, teachers either don't believe this or don't care about this batch of students.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:21 am to
I think teachers should probably be able to make that call as of now.

Even if they just move them all forward now, you are talking about an extreme minority of students. For those that do get moved on when they would have been held back otherwise, then they either are able to figure it out and get up to speed in the next grade, or they just get held back in 8th grade instead of 7th and overall it really won't have a major impact which grade it was IMO.


Googling said that 10% of students got held back at least once from 1st to 8th grade - so on an annual basis you are talking about less than 2% of students.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:21 am to
Those who take education serious and feel like they fell behind will have the opportunity for Summer Enrichment programs.

Just like every other summer.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:22 am to
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they lost 2-2.5 months, and one week of that was spring break


Evidently it's not that important.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:26 am to
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quote:
Am I supposed to respond to such an absurd statement in some way?

No but you clearly don’t understand how important fundamental foundational concepts are for learning. You learn them and imprint them. Come back from break and do a refresher then right into building on those concepts. It’s important.


I mean I get it, I spent a long time tutoring math to high school and college kids so I certainly understand the ideas.

The break in the foundation concepts simply happens at a different point in the curriculum - one month earlier than was planned. So the educational administrators need to simply figure out how to adjust as a result of this last month - the same way much of the country is doing right now.

This isn't going to be some devastating blow to this country's children long term. Will need some thoughtful planning and effort but seems unlikely to change long term outcomes IMO
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432163 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:27 am to
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Will need some thoughtful planning

what about this ENTIRE process, from the federal level to state level, inspires confidence that they'll finally do this?
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
13966 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:27 am to
Something that really bothers me is that this CBL stuff that they're being issued doesn't get graded.
That also applies to packets with no way to key them.

I does keep them in a "learning" mode.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
54667 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:28 am to
I don’t see what the big deal is like everyone who goes to public school end up in jail eventually
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27590 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:29 am to
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how in the hell can we pass these kids along?


Take the China virus out of the equation.
Go back every year for the last 20 years. Now, go to the the DMV when it opens back up. Look at the people waiting and look at the people working as well.
Then ask yourself, is there a difference?

What you will witness is the result of:
#NoKidGetsLeftBehind



Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:32 am to
Do you think the long term outcomes for some portion of the students are going to be significantly impacted? Which ones?


I just really don't see educational outcomes as being a major story on the ramifications of COVID
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6970 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:57 am to
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Lot of non-parents/morons in this thread


One big one in your post.

2 kids here in my house. Still doing their assignments and zooming their class every Friday. Maybe be a better parent... If you’re even one.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:28 am to
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capitalized OPs are for super serious threads only. usually with links and editorial comment included



Seriously though, if you are really interested in the subject, look into things like education in Britain during WWII or even when Louisiana added 12th grade statewide. There is a lot of fascinating stuff out there.

Anecdotally - my dad quit school after 6th grade to help support his family during the depression. I've got 4 degrees including a doctorate and several certifications, but I've always said he was a smarter man than I'll ever be.

But yeah, I do think this will cause some degree of harm to some students. I don't think it will be devastating, and it will definitely vary between school systems, schools, and even teachers, but it would be naive to say that no harm was done.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
104028 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:38 am to
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Nola was going to be an epicenter of the virus in terms of the US



What the frick?
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:39 am to
High school math teacher here. Algebra 2 to be specific.

We have live Zoom teaching sessions 3 times a week for an hour each time. We are giving homework assignments that are graded. We are giving tests that are timed and graded via a program called Illuminate. We make the kids upload pictures of all their scratch work for tests on google classroom and use that to help grade tests.

We are covering the following during this distance learning:

Exponential Functions/Equations
Logarithmic Functions/Equations
Sequences and Series
Right triangle Trig
A little Conics
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:09 pm to
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