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re: I think we can all agree now that models are not accurate.

Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38534 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:35 pm to
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The Spanish Flu pandemic started in March 1918...subsided over the summer...and then exploded & peaked in Fall 1918.

Point is this shite has happened before. Don't let improving numbers fool you.



Literally there’s gonna be like body bags, y’all.

Like literally.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43317 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:46 pm to
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Models for global warming, models for viruses...


I bet you think this is a good gotcha. But it's not.

There's vastly more long-term data to put into models for global warming. That's not to say that they're necessarily accurate, but it's really a shitty comparison. Very, very different scenarios with very different data sets.

It shouldn't be too surprising that the early models for COVID-19 were off the mark with little to no good data to drive them.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145520 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:47 pm to
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models for viruses...
its honestly remarkable how people have latched onto this
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145520 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:48 pm to
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I bet you think this is a good gotcha. But it's not.

especially considering the fact that those virus models were all based on if we did nothing
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38534 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:50 pm to
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Very, very different scenarios with very different data sets.


How many data sets for global warming?

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38534 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:51 pm to
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if we did nothing


Got a believer!

Everyone staying at home reduced it from 2M to 60K!
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:56 pm to
Everyone in the south knows better. That's why it's the leading region in the united states.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:04 pm to
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Do you criticize hurricane models for not being accurate 2 weeks from landfall? It's the best these researchers can do folks...



Then it’s not good enough . frick em
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:07 pm to
Models aren’t intended to be accurate. They are used to influence behavior to the result of the authorities/experts. Mission accomplished.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56955 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:10 pm to
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Predicting the future is hard?

Who could have predicted that?



We might want to remember that next time before we start recommending doing trillions of dollars of damage to the economy.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56955 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:10 pm to
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Do you criticize hurricane models for not being accurate 2 weeks from landfall? It's the best these researchers can do folks...



That's why we don't evacuate 2 weeks before landfall, retard.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11371 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:18 pm to
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Obviously not enough to shut the country down?


How much do you think it did though?
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
1579 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:18 pm to
The 200k death models were based on full isolation. Nice try.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:20 pm to
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Models for global warming, models for viruses...


It's like people can't help themselves.

They inject unrelated politics into everything. It's a plague.

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145520 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:23 pm to
i was under the assumption that OP was talking about the 2.2 million model which, considering his response to me, was a fair assumption to make
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:32 pm to
Yeah we should just ditch all the freaking stupid science shite and just hire the psycho network?????
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:36 pm to
If this were the 80s it would be pretty bad. Now we have delivery services, cell phones, work from home options.

2MM number could have easily happened.
The only difference is coding hipsters in Asia think it's cool to eat bats. Those need types didn't eat bats in the 80s
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10714 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:39 pm to
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Do you criticize hurricane models for not being accurate 2 weeks from landfall? It's the best these researchers can do folks...



But we reacted like the hurricane was just forming in the Atlantic, and New Orleans was ordered to evacuate to Georgia with the hurricane off the coast of Africa. Then two weeks later the models shifted towards the east coast and all the Nola residents are ordered to stay where they are.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38534 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:40 pm to
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Yeah we should just ditch all the freaking stupid science shite and just hire the psycho network?????




You wouldn’t know it if it hit you in the arse!
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:50 pm to
That "15 cases, will soon be 0" model sure was accurate.
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