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Greyhound says BP may no longer search for illegal immigrants on buses without warrant
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:18 am
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:18 am
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Bus giant Greyhound announced Friday that the company will no longer allow Border Patrol agents in search of illegal immigrants to board its buses without a warrant, in a move being hailed by civil rights advocates.
The Associated Press reported Greyhound wrote in an emailed statement that "it would notify the Department of Homeland Security that it does not consent to unwarranted searches on its buses or in areas of terminals that are not open to the public."
The emailed stated, "Our primary concern is the safety of our customers and team members, and we are confident these changes will lead to an improved experience for all parties involved."
Greyhound's new policy comes one week after the AP noted in a separate exclusive report that an internal memo from U.S. Customs and Border Protection dated Jan. 28 notified agents that boarding buses and questioning passengers without the consent of the company is a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution.
The report further noted that "Greyhound has faced pressure from the American Civil Liberties Union, immigrant rights activists and Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson to stop allowing sweeps on buses within 100 miles (160 kilometers) of an international border or coastline."
In June 2018, Greyhound stating on a company blog post, "While we are required to comply with the law by allowing Border Patrol agents to board our buses when they ask to do so, we do not support or coordinate these searches, nor are we happy about them." It concluded, "Our drivers face arrest and fines for obstructing these agents, and we would not want to put their safety, or the safety of our passengers at risk by attempting to physically stop a federal agent from boarding."
Both the ACLU and Ferguson took victory laps upon hearing of Greyhound's policy change.
Andrea Flores, deputy director of policy for the ACLU's Equality Division told the AP via email, "We are pleased to see Greyhound clearly communicate that it does not consent to racial profiling and harassment on its buses. By protecting its customers and employees, Greyhound is sending a message that it prioritizes the communities it serves."
Ferguson's office released his statement on Twitter, which read, "Today's announcement from Greyhound confirms what should have been obvious to the company since I contacted them a year ago — it has both the power and the responsibility to stand up for its customers, who suffered for far too long from Greyhound's indifference to CBP's suspicionless bus raids and harassment."
"It's unfortunate it took a leaked memo and the threat of a lawsuit by my office before Greyhound acted," Ferguson continued. "That said, we're not just going to take Greyhound's word. We'll be following up with Greyhound to ensure compliance."
As of this writing, CBP had not yet issued a public statement in reaction to Greyhound's announcement. The AP noted that in the past "Border Patrol has insisted that it does not profile passengers based on their appearance, but instead asks all passengers whether they are citizens or in the country legally. The agency says the bus checks are an important way to ferret out human trafficking, narcotics and illegal immigration."
Bus giant Greyhound announced Friday that the company will no longer allow Border Patrol agents in search of illegal immigrants to board its buses without a warrant, in a move being hailed by civil rights advocates.
The Associated Press reported Greyhound wrote in an emailed statement that "it would notify the Department of Homeland Security that it does not consent to unwarranted searches on its buses or in areas of terminals that are not open to the public."
The emailed stated, "Our primary concern is the safety of our customers and team members, and we are confident these changes will lead to an improved experience for all parties involved."
Greyhound's new policy comes one week after the AP noted in a separate exclusive report that an internal memo from U.S. Customs and Border Protection dated Jan. 28 notified agents that boarding buses and questioning passengers without the consent of the company is a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution.
The report further noted that "Greyhound has faced pressure from the American Civil Liberties Union, immigrant rights activists and Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson to stop allowing sweeps on buses within 100 miles (160 kilometers) of an international border or coastline."
In June 2018, Greyhound stating on a company blog post, "While we are required to comply with the law by allowing Border Patrol agents to board our buses when they ask to do so, we do not support or coordinate these searches, nor are we happy about them." It concluded, "Our drivers face arrest and fines for obstructing these agents, and we would not want to put their safety, or the safety of our passengers at risk by attempting to physically stop a federal agent from boarding."
Both the ACLU and Ferguson took victory laps upon hearing of Greyhound's policy change.
Andrea Flores, deputy director of policy for the ACLU's Equality Division told the AP via email, "We are pleased to see Greyhound clearly communicate that it does not consent to racial profiling and harassment on its buses. By protecting its customers and employees, Greyhound is sending a message that it prioritizes the communities it serves."
Ferguson's office released his statement on Twitter, which read, "Today's announcement from Greyhound confirms what should have been obvious to the company since I contacted them a year ago — it has both the power and the responsibility to stand up for its customers, who suffered for far too long from Greyhound's indifference to CBP's suspicionless bus raids and harassment."
"It's unfortunate it took a leaked memo and the threat of a lawsuit by my office before Greyhound acted," Ferguson continued. "That said, we're not just going to take Greyhound's word. We'll be following up with Greyhound to ensure compliance."
As of this writing, CBP had not yet issued a public statement in reaction to Greyhound's announcement. The AP noted that in the past "Border Patrol has insisted that it does not profile passengers based on their appearance, but instead asks all passengers whether they are citizens or in the country legally. The agency says the bus checks are an important way to ferret out human trafficking, narcotics and illegal immigration."
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:21 am to Crimson Wraith
Smart move, being that they are in business to make money.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:23 am to Crimson Wraith
They can't stop them.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:25 am to Crimson Wraith
Lol, let's see how that works at checkpoints near the border.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:27 am to theOG
We’ll see how awesome it is when bp detains a bus for 6 hours waiting for a warrant.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:27 am to Crimson Wraith
If these are just buses running domestic routes near the border, then I support it.
Can’t just randomly stop buses and ask for papers.
Can’t just randomly stop buses and ask for papers.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:28 am to Crimson Wraith
I bet the drivers appreciate this. Comply with company rules and go to jail for obstruction.
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 7:38 am
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:32 am to Crimson Wraith
Fine. Hold random checks outside the doors of the stations. Can’t stop that.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:32 am to Crimson Wraith
BP can always make it too painful to operate anywhere near any US Border for Greyhound.
As far as the terminals go...since Greyhound has now publicly supported terrorists, drug smugglers, and illegal alien invasion, let's put those Forfeiture Laws into action and seize the stations!
If they want jackbooted thugs, let's give them some jackbooted thugs.
As far as the terminals go...since Greyhound has now publicly supported terrorists, drug smugglers, and illegal alien invasion, let's put those Forfeiture Laws into action and seize the stations!
If they want jackbooted thugs, let's give them some jackbooted thugs.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:33 am to theOG
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Smart move, being that they are in business to make money.
Damn sure know where to look now
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:36 am to Ag Zwin
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Can’t just randomly stop buses and ask for papers.
That's where I am at as well. I want the wall and border secured, but not at the expense of civil liberties. I recall being stopped inside the border and having IDs checked when I would be around the border when I was younger. I wouldn't agree to that BS now.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:37 am to Ag Zwin
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Can’t just randomly stop buses and ask for papers.
Lol you think the cops follow the law concerning probable cause? That's cute
Anyway they are DOT, you don't have to have any reason to pull them over, they are engaged in commercial interstate commerce, how can you be do dumb? Can you not read good?
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 7:44 am
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:37 am to Crimson Wraith
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a move being hailed by civil rights advocates
Are those Mexican civil rights advocates? Because illegals don't have U.S. civil rights protections.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:37 am to Crimson Wraith
Might be time for some strict DOT inspections.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:39 am to Ag Zwin
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Can’t just randomly stop buses and ask for papers.
Agree.
Hell, why not let the DEA stop random buses and bring drug sniffing dogs aboard?
Screw the federal government. Get a warrant if you have a good reason to think someone did something wrong.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:39 am to autauga
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some strict DOT inspections.
Bingo!
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Can’t just randomly stop buses and ask for papers.
oh yes they can. Just ask any trucker.
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 7:40 am
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:40 am to Ag Zwin
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Can’t just randomly stop buses and ask for papers.
Hate to break it to you but yes you can. Your move Greyhound. Hopefully CBP holds the bus for the legally maximum allotted time likely 48hrs while they obtain a warrant. Additionally time for some real DOT inspections on the motor coaches.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:41 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Additionally time for some real DOT inspections on the motor coaches.
Like you're about to get f'ed in the A
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:42 am to Crimson Wraith
Trump should do to Greyhound what he did to NY City, when they refused to allow interface of Driver's License information with Fed Agencies like ICE. Such should be declared a National Security risk, and in Greyhound's case...any innate rights or regulations re inter-Border transport should be suspended.
Booking on Greyhound will skyrocket, as drug mules load up and head north on a bus they know won't be searched.
Virtue signaling by GH. Won't last as long as a snoball in hell.
Booking on Greyhound will skyrocket, as drug mules load up and head north on a bus they know won't be searched.
Virtue signaling by GH. Won't last as long as a snoball in hell.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:44 am to RCDfan1950
PS...my post assumes that GH runs across the Border; if not, my point is moot. Other than that some States may wish not to allow what is a 'Sanctuary' bus. Still great for drug mules.
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