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re: Greyhound says BP may no longer search for illegal immigrants on buses without warrant

Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:19 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Was not speaking of their right to pull over any commercial vehicle on a US highway or State road but their right to ask for ID of passengers in said commercial vehicle.
Strannix’ point was that FedGov can retaliate against Greyhound for the change in policy by harassing the company with pretextual DoT inspections.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12027 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:22 am to
quote:

oh yes they can. Just ask any trucker.


That is what I was thinking. Troopers stop Vans on the Interstate Hwy, looking for drugs. Do they have warrants?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64471 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:33 am to
quote:

FedGov can retaliate against Greyhound for the change in policy by harassing the company with pretextual DoT inspections.


Yes that is the general topic.
Fed, State and local governments do this all the time for the "general welfare" of the whole.
Seems to be the point of debate that is is riding the edge of legality worth it in this case.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12260 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:36 am to
Border patrol stops everyone randomly looking for illegals.


For a year my wife and I lived near El Paso. We are white and we got pulled over and checked by BP about once a month.

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30276 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:37 am to
They've got a little extra leeway 100 miles in from the border per federal regulations.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49021 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Was not speaking of their right to pull over any commercial vehicle on a US highway or State road but their right to ask for ID of passengers in said commercial vehicle.


If you're not an illegal you've got nothing to worry about
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:40 am to
quote:

If you're not an illegal you've got nothing to worry about
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64471 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Police can stop and inspect any car driving down a "drug corridor".
Can you provide any citation in support of this proposition?




It's called illegal lane change/speeding etc..
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64471 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:43 am to
quote:

If you're not an illegal you've got nothing to worry about


So your on a GH and asked to hand over your ID and you always will?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:43 am to
Melodramatic LibbyHank!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99127 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:47 am to
quote:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew


Well...I'll never be an illegal alien in the USA, so I have nothing to be concerned about.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Ok boomer


Are you claiming that is not true?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Can you provide any citation in support of this proposition?


"Cops" dude!
Check it out!
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:52 am to
When an illegal commits some kind of horrible crime on one of their buses, they will be far more civically liable now that they’ve decided to essentially make sanctuary busses.

Same goes with sanctuary cities, the Federal Government needs to allow civil litigation against these cities for allowing lawlessness in their jurisdictions.

Problem solved very quickly.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:53 am to
quote:

First they came for the ...


Trumps taxes. If he has nothing to hide he has nothing to fear.

*am I doing this right?*
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:54 am to
quote:

It's called illegal lane change/speeding etc..

And?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68184 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

We’ll see how awesome it is when bp detains a bus for 6 hours waiting for a warrant.


Greyhound should be careful what they ask for.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12421 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:56 am to
Good, I love the 4th amendment.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64471 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:57 am to
And what?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 10:00 am to

GB better rethink this!
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