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re: Look for the powers that be to cause a market crash/correction right before 2020 election
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:26 pm to BuzzSaw 12
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:26 pm to BuzzSaw 12
Yeah it'll crash and it'll be all the libs fault even though pubs have held majority for the last 10 years!
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:19 pm to dcbl
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you heard it here 1st...
happens as regular as the sun rising they sell off stocks just before the election to crash the market as others get scared and sell while the prices are dropping.
you could even make good money betting the indexes short term swing
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:21 am to dcbl
4th rate cut in a "booming" economy. If it happens, it's because we're emulating Chinese market manipulation.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 12:28 am
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:24 am to buckeye_vol
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especially if a Sanders or Warren is the alternative.
Even Bloomberg would vote for Trump over Sanders or Warren
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:27 am to buckeye_vol
Buckeye, ever notice that they never respond when you bring up the coronavirus data from nations other than China. Why aren’t places like japan reporting alarming data if it’s as bad as the conspiracy theorists say?
The death rate and severe case rate in democratic, open nations outside China don’t indicate that China is concealing bad numbers.
The death rate and severe case rate in democratic, open nations outside China don’t indicate that China is concealing bad numbers.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:44 am to dcbl
Who are these mysterious "powers that be" capable of "causing a market crash/correction right before the 2020 election?"
I mean they must be fairly damn powerful to control all the various key indicators right down to the week/day.
I mean they must be fairly damn powerful to control all the various key indicators right down to the week/day.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 1:09 am to BuzzSaw 12
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the best way to do it is to have the stock market take a big shite a few months before the election so the libtard candidate can put fear and doubt in the less educated voters minds about the economy.
For those folks it will have to be in Q3 so it shows up on their 401(k) statement before the election. I don’t think it can happen the “powers that be” can’t manipulate the market directly (ie short the market) so it would have to be a terror attack or something like that.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:21 am to scrooster
quote:I said it earlier; people like Soros and the Chinese government
Who are these mysterious "powers that be" capable of "causing a market crash/correction right before the 2020 election?"
My expectation is that we will see a market correction that is artificially fueled by massive sell offs
I am not pretending to know everything. I worked for a penny stock firm as my 1st job out of college (my college buddy showed me his $10,000 paycheck in 1992 & I thought I would give it a try, it took me a while to understand that I was working for thieves, but I saw small scale market manipulation at work)
I hope I am wrong & maybe our economy is too big for that type of manipulation...
However, I absolutely believe that the globalist will attempt to create a scare that causes the masses to start selling. I also expect to see some bad economic news close to the election
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:26 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:does anyone really believe that type of thing is off the table to bring down the Orange Man?
it would have to be a terror attack or something like that.
I am not trying to be a Q type conspiracy theorist here, just making a prediction/observation
Posted on 2/21/20 at 7:21 am to dcbl
quote:You think you're the only one who has thought of this? I guarantee 80% of this board has been concerned about this since midterms.
you heard it here 1st...
Posted on 2/21/20 at 7:32 am to dcbl
quote:
you heard it here 1st...
not really.
corona virus says hi
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:07 am to dcbl
Doubtful. If the anti-Trump “They” could tank the market, they clearly would have when the Left was trying to tell us a recession was imminent last year.
But they couldn’t do it then, in spite of clearly trying their best, so why would they suddenly be able to do it now?
We’re still above 29,000 and having typical volatility in the midst of a potential global pandemic. Some companies are getting hammered as a result of quarantines and entire cities being shutoff, and we’re still having just as many up days as down days, and all economic indicators are still trending up.
The Coronavirus can cause concern, but it can’t cause companies who are making money to stop paying dividends and hiring people and making more money.
The only way the market tanks is if we have a nuclear event somewhere of importance. A dirty bomb or a meltdown that ruins or logjams an economic sector or three.
Aside from that, there’s nothing physically in the way to prevent economic growth. People have jobs and more money. People are spending that money. Companies are making profits and hiring more people. Etc etc. And there’s nothing imminent that’s disrupting that cycle.
On top of this, trade deals have only just started kicking in and working, and we haven’t come close to actualizing those benefits yet, even. And, more companies are moving to/moving back to the US. Hell, the Coronavirus might actually help expedite corporate inversions TO the US.
Immigration is still improving and more and more low skilled full time jobs are coming available for out of work citizens. The labor participation rate continues to rise while jobless claims and unemployment stay steadily low.
Regulations are still getting cut, and off-shore money is still being repatriated.
“They” can’t do anything to stop this. “They” already tried and failed. And have you been watching all their other failings?? Russiagate, Mueller, Ukrainegate, Impeachment, Recessiongate, the clowns they have as candidates....
“They” are incompetent boobs who can’t rig a fricking Iowa primary right, for Christ’s sake.
“They” sure as shite can’t cause a market collapse either.
But they couldn’t do it then, in spite of clearly trying their best, so why would they suddenly be able to do it now?
We’re still above 29,000 and having typical volatility in the midst of a potential global pandemic. Some companies are getting hammered as a result of quarantines and entire cities being shutoff, and we’re still having just as many up days as down days, and all economic indicators are still trending up.
The Coronavirus can cause concern, but it can’t cause companies who are making money to stop paying dividends and hiring people and making more money.
The only way the market tanks is if we have a nuclear event somewhere of importance. A dirty bomb or a meltdown that ruins or logjams an economic sector or three.
Aside from that, there’s nothing physically in the way to prevent economic growth. People have jobs and more money. People are spending that money. Companies are making profits and hiring more people. Etc etc. And there’s nothing imminent that’s disrupting that cycle.
On top of this, trade deals have only just started kicking in and working, and we haven’t come close to actualizing those benefits yet, even. And, more companies are moving to/moving back to the US. Hell, the Coronavirus might actually help expedite corporate inversions TO the US.
Immigration is still improving and more and more low skilled full time jobs are coming available for out of work citizens. The labor participation rate continues to rise while jobless claims and unemployment stay steadily low.
Regulations are still getting cut, and off-shore money is still being repatriated.
“They” can’t do anything to stop this. “They” already tried and failed. And have you been watching all their other failings?? Russiagate, Mueller, Ukrainegate, Impeachment, Recessiongate, the clowns they have as candidates....
“They” are incompetent boobs who can’t rig a fricking Iowa primary right, for Christ’s sake.
“They” sure as shite can’t cause a market collapse either.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:13 am to dcbl
quote:Perhaps you've heard of some folks named Buffet, Bloomberg, Bezos too? All Anti-Trumpers who are multi Billionaires and could easily pool their collective Billions into hundreds of Billions, even a Trillion or 2.
quote:
Who are these powers and how will they do this?
people like George Soros
people who have lots of cash and influence that are willing to accept short term losses in order to make Trump look bad
Just a handful who definitely could influence the Stock Market just by Pulling their Trillion dollars out and putting it into bonds for 30 days. Not really lose anything other than transaction costs which after the market crash they could make up buying on the cheap and waiting for a rise again.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:48 am to Sidicous
quote:LOL, you clearly have no idea how trading stocks works or what control these guys have over doing something like this.
Just a handful who definitely could influence the Stock Market just by Pulling their Trillion dollars out and putting it into bonds for 30 days. Not really lose anything other than transaction costs which after the market crash they could make up buying on the cheap and waiting for a rise again.
What you just described isn't close to possible. There are laws and rules in place by the SEC, FINRA, and the Federal government that prevent things like this. Not to mention the company corporate by-laws and the fact these companies are PUBLIC and therefore you need the authorization from the stock owners (ie. the public) to make such sweeping trades.
Just dumb.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:32 am to dcbl
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does anyone really believe that type of thing is off the table to bring down the Orange Man?
Combining their hatred for OMB and the priority of their power of advancement of US interests no sentient person could truly believe the deep state wouldn’t do even a 9/11 type attack to regain power and protect their secrets and interests.
These people are the true deplorables and they leverage a lot of useful idiots.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:40 am to dcbl
It has been done before. Obama's first election.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:45 am to dcbl
quote:
does anyone really believe that type of thing is off the table to bring down the Orange Man?
I am not trying to be a Q type conspiracy theorist here, just making a prediction/observation
Noticed how much talks of "Possible Terror Attack" etc. have gone down since he's become President?
Just saying
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:08 am to BeefDawg
quote:Show us all how these DemsProgFilth are under rules and laws. Show us all the indictments against Dems. What's that? You can't name any big time nationally recognizable Dems to suffer FedGov rules and laws?
There are laws and rules in place by the SEC, FINRA, and the Federal government that prevent things like this.
quote:These are the majority stockholders who ratify the trades and contracts and bylaws. They hold the control through the volume of stocks they own in these corporations.
Not to mention the company corporate by-laws and the fact these companies are PUBLIC and therefore you need the authorization from the stock owners (ie. the public) to make such sweeping trades.
Bezos made news selling off $40something million of his stock just in the last week or so...who did he ask permission from? Think he was gonna tell himself no?
Bill Gates has made massive selloffs of his MS holdings periodically, nobody tells him he cannot sell.
Buffett just for the first time dumped stocks. In the newspapers who just filed bankruptcy following his dump and some lawsuits.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:20 am to YF12
It looks like the supply chain impact is starting to impact earnings forecasts. Hold onto your butts.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:23 am to dcbl
The spread of the coronavirus could portend a stock market dip, according to a Goldman Sachs analysis.
The stock market has continued to reach new highs despite the spread of the deadly virus, but that trend may not continue, warns Goldman Sachs analyst Peter Oppenheimer said.
In the near term "we believe the greater risk is that the impact of the coronavirus on earnings may well be underestimated in current stock prices, suggesting that the risks of a correction are high," he wrote in the analysis released Wednesday.
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Oppenheimer said traders were following the playbook for the 2003 SARS outbreak, which came and went without much ado. This time around, however, China's economy is six times larger than it was when SARS broke out, meaning the drop of its growth projections from 5.9 percent to 5.5 percent will have a more significant global effect. LINK
The stock market has continued to reach new highs despite the spread of the deadly virus, but that trend may not continue, warns Goldman Sachs analyst Peter Oppenheimer said.
In the near term "we believe the greater risk is that the impact of the coronavirus on earnings may well be underestimated in current stock prices, suggesting that the risks of a correction are high," he wrote in the analysis released Wednesday.
ADVERTISEMENT
Oppenheimer said traders were following the playbook for the 2003 SARS outbreak, which came and went without much ado. This time around, however, China's economy is six times larger than it was when SARS broke out, meaning the drop of its growth projections from 5.9 percent to 5.5 percent will have a more significant global effect. LINK
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