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let's discuss this opioid issue in the USA

Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:09 am
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:09 am
after watching "the pharmacist" i'm kinda torn on this addiction thing. i've never fought addiction but, i'm not sure that i would blame the drugs. i have taken prescribed opioids and quit when the pain was gone or if i ran out of prescriptions. it's gonna really suck when you have surgery and all they will be able to prescribe is a bottle of advil in the future.

do you blame the drugs or the people that can't quit?
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29722 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:10 am to
Refreshing topic
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
3115 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:13 am to
It’s the people. Whether it’s drugs, guns, whatever. People make choices. We’re a society that likes to place blame on everything else but ourselves.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35699 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:15 am to
In before people come in here spouting off about patients being stupid for following their doctor's orders.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:15 am to
I blame God. I've been graced by not having an addictive personality. However, I completely understand how some people get hooked after just a small time on pain killers or drinking or even gambling. To us non addictive people, it's easy to be judgemental about it. But probably 25-40% start off innocent with a dr's script.

Would those people have ended up being some sort of addict of drugs or thrown their life away for something else? Not sure. I'd LOVE to see a real life study done on the issue that isn't trying to prove or disprove blame. A little more care from the medical community would go a long way though in at least keeping it from getting out of hand.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56000 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:16 am to
I’m with Dave Chapelle. It’s sad, but I don’t care.
Posted by Commandeaux
Zachary
Member since Jul 2009
7336 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:16 am to
"Just say no, what's so hard about that."

:DaveChappelleVoice:
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15582 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:16 am to
We as humans will always find a way to abuse things. It becomes real easy to abuse opioids whenever doctors are giving them to us. Opioids need to go and it’s time for marijuana to be legal
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36483 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:17 am to
thank god, i was worried we might go one day without a boomer coming on here reducing the complexities of the opioid crisis to a bullshite "blame junkies" trope
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57572 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:19 am to
quote:

it's gonna really suck when you have surgery and all they will be able to prescribe is a bottle of advil in the future.


you do realize that won't ever be an issue right? You just won't get 90 pills for 3 months for it
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65066 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:19 am to
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opioid issue


When you lump in legal prescription opiod users with the junkies who live under a bridge and you don't differentiate between the 2 in the fed/state data, you can create whatever narrative you want. Fentanyl is categorized as an opiate and so is hydrocodone. One MUCH more dangerous than the other. They also don't take into account the "mixing" of other drugs with opiates. If an opiate is there, it's an opiate related death. There's your epidemic. And it's horseshite for the most part and it's hurt people taking it like they are supposed to and probably pushed them to the street towards heroin. It's also helped some people who needed to get off of them because they didn't legitimately need them. I've looked at the statistics even in the Baton Rouge area and there is no epidemic of deaths in this area. Sure people die but they also die from electrocution, being fat, etc.

And mark my words, Benzodiazepines are next on the "hit list". They are the next "epidemic" that the government will focus on.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59483 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:24 am to
quote:

i'm not sure that i would blame the drugs.


Oh for frick's sake. It's not the drugs themselves. It's the corporations that marketed them and lied about their qualities.

Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20942 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:28 am to
When I had my wisdom tooth taken out they offered me Percocet but I declined and took 800 mg ibuprofen instead which seem to work pretty well. I have never had a problem with opioids by the way.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

do you blame the drugs or the people that can't quit?



Both.

Some people are just predisposed for addiction. Whether it be gambling, opioids, cigarettes, alcohol, porn, or whatever. Opioids are highly addictive, so if someone predisposed for addiction gets their hands on them it can be a dangerous combination.

Be thankful you're not predisposed for addiction. I'm not really either. I had some chronic pain issues 10 or so years ago and was prescribed more opioids than I probably needed, and I abused them. Never got addicted to them though. My little brother wasn't as fortunate.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45250 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:35 am to
It's the people. No one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to take pills. Blaming the pills is a way to avoid personal responsibility.

On another note, though:

quote:

after watching "the pharmacist"


How in the frick did Jacqueline Cleggett never serve jail time?
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 9:38 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263209 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:38 am to
No one accidentally becomes a drunk or addict.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9724 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:42 am to
quote:

it's gonna really suck when you have surgery and all they will be able to prescribe is a bottle of advil in the future.


This isn't going to happen.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6605 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:16 am to
People, weak minded people
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22514 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:27 am to
quote:

let's discuss this opioid issue in the USA


Let's not. I couldn't care less if addicts off themselves with their idiotic choices. Crack, meth, heroin, fentanyl, whatever, I'm all for Murphy and Darwin weeding out the weak.
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