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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:37 pm to jojothetireguy
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:37 pm to jojothetireguy
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hearing an announcement will be made at around 3 today for Orleans to be shut down except for nonessential businesses
Y’all keep it up. Eventually one of you will time it right. Tomorrow morning, we’ll have 10 more posters with sources saying the same thing.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:39 pm to tigerskin
Governor Cuomo now stating that the peak will be in 45 days.
This is the shite that infuriates me and is a sign of how stupidly misguided everyone has been.
Were the experts not saying that the peak was going to be in 8-10 days?
Now it is 45 days.
Next, when that doesn’t play out, it will be 2 months, then 3 months, and on and on.
This is absurd and people are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.
And many of you on here will actually buy into this bullshite.
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Mr. Cuomo said that the outbreak was projected to peak in 45 days, around May 1.
This is the shite that infuriates me and is a sign of how stupidly misguided everyone has been.
Were the experts not saying that the peak was going to be in 8-10 days?
Now it is 45 days.
Next, when that doesn’t play out, it will be 2 months, then 3 months, and on and on.
This is absurd and people are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.
And many of you on here will actually buy into this bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:41 pm to Scruffy
also not buying Cuomo’s “45 day peak” talking point. Let’s see an ounce of science behind that.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:42 pm to Scruffy
It’s almost like this is new and with more information, things change.
And let’s not act like all the experts are in agreement with all of these projections.
And let’s not act like all the experts are in agreement with all of these projections.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:45 pm to Salmon
Cuomo is a fricking lib. I don't believe a word he says.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:45 pm to LSURussian
I know Cathy O’Neal. I think she was trying to calm people down a bit. Which isn’t a bad public message right now. But none of the data we have so far indicate that 80% of people won’t experience any symptoms.
They may think they just have a cold or flu and never get checked out. That’s true.
They may think they just have a cold or flu and never get checked out. That’s true.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:46 pm to Scruffy
Well, Trump said things could last until July or August, so...
(Apparently Scruffy doesn't like when Scruffy's half-narratives are deconstructed)
(Apparently Scruffy doesn't like when Scruffy's half-narratives are deconstructed)
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:47 pm to More beer please
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ad a client just say that same rumor about a national guard buddy telling him a total shutdown for 2 weeks is coming
My Air Force BIL told us yesterday that Trump would be announcing this yesterday or today.. I’ve watched the press conferences, and am still waiting for Trump to tell us when he’s shutting America down..
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:51 pm to Scruffy
New York’s main issue is they still haven’t shut down the subway. So even though they’re on lockdown right now, the subway is going to keep being a big transmitter of the disease. Places where cars are the main mode of transportation should see a peak of about 14-21 days after going into lockdown
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:52 pm to Scruffy
quote:
This is the shite that infuriates me and is a sign of how stupidly misguided everyone has been.
Were the experts not saying that the peak was going to be in 8-10 days?
Now it is 45 days.
Next, when that doesn’t play out, it will be 2 months, then 3 months, and on and on.
This is absurd and people are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.
And many of you on here will actually buy into this bullshite.
His comments are in line with current modeling being produced by numerous research groups. There will be a peak and, without a vaccine, subsequent rebounds as mitigation efforts are relaxed. I feel that is a reasonable take just looking at potential case loads. However, that doesn't say anything about the severity of cases and additional data may suggest that current mitigation efforts can be ended sooner or that future efforts aren't required.
One example of current research that has been discussed in this thread. You can disagree with the results but their methods appear sound.
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LINK
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:52 pm to Klark Kent
quote:You don’t need to see any science.
also not buying Cuomo’s “45 day peak” talking point. Let’s see an ounce of science behind that.
Someone on TV proclaims it and then people consume it as fact.
Then, when it is incorrect, like the peak in 8-10 days prediction was, you have people excusing it away with “well, we didn’t have complete information at the time”, and no one is called out or forced to apologize for spouting falsehoods as facts.
How about we not make severely impactful decisions on incomplete data?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:53 pm to Scruffy
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How about we not make severely impactful decisions on incomplete data?
Do you even government bro?
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:54 pm to Scruffy
quote:
This is the shite that infuriates me and is a sign of how stupidly misguided everyone has been. Were the experts not saying that the peak was going to be in 8-10 days? Now it is 45 days. Next, when that doesn’t play out, it will be 2 months, then 3 months, and on and on. This is absurd and people are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker. And many of you on here will actually buy into this bull shite.
I haven’t read any experts that have said the peak would be in 8-10 days. Less than 1% of our population would be infected by that time. How could that be the peak? I think they know they will have to take measures well before the peak in order to lessen it.
If you think the peak is in 45 days you probably start taking serious measures 21-28 days before the peak. Which means we should start to see action in 10-14 days.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:56 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:No you don’t. She goes by Katie.
I know Cathy O’Neal. I think she was trying to calm people down a bit.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:57 pm to Centinel
The government is excused because that is the whole purpose of their existence.
What blows my mind is the number of individuals who accept that so readily without question or review.
What blows my mind is the number of individuals who accept that so readily without question or review.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:58 pm to Scruffy
quote:
How about we not make severely impactful decisions on incomplete data?
Decision makers are jumpy right now because of a lack of information, due to a lack of testing.
They don’t know how many cases are out there so in that situation they will lean toward more conservative statements and decisions. Better to tell everyone the peak is in 10 days and it’s in 45 rather than the other way around.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:00 pm to Scruffy
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What blows my mind is the number of individuals who accept that so readily without question or review.
What blows my mind is you as a fellow physician can’t comprehend that overloading ICUs is a realistic concern. Just because your patient population isn’t the one involved.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:01 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Are you joking?
I haven’t read any experts that have said the peak would be in 8-10 days. Less than 1% of our population would be infected by that time. How could that be the peak? I think they know they will have to take measures well before the peak in order to lessen it.
In this very thread, people were posting the comments of Obama’s Acting Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and taking his word as gospel.
The news was taking his word as gospel.
Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:02 pm to tigerskin
quote:Oh, your right.
What blows my mind is you as a fellow physician can’t comprehend that overloading ICUs is a realistic concern. Just because your patient population isn’t the one involved.
How long should we shut everything down?
30 days?
Peak is in 45 days, so that won’t work.
Maybe 60.
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