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Are food banks "enablers" of drug addicts??
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:07 am
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:07 am
I am told the only way to really get an addict to reform is make them stand completely on their own. You cannot enable their life style in any way.
Fist off do you think that is true?
Secondly does that mean food banks are enablers? How does anyone other than an absolute druggie do without food given the vast welfare available to the poor? Are most of the customers of food banks druggies?
I have traditionally contributed to my local food bank but if feeding these drug addicts is keeping them from taking care to themselves on their own am I doing the right thing?
No question in my mind that most homeless are addicts of one kind or another.
Fist off do you think that is true?
Secondly does that mean food banks are enablers? How does anyone other than an absolute druggie do without food given the vast welfare available to the poor? Are most of the customers of food banks druggies?
I have traditionally contributed to my local food bank but if feeding these drug addicts is keeping them from taking care to themselves on their own am I doing the right thing?
No question in my mind that most homeless are addicts of one kind or another.
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 7:08 am
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:08 am to I B Freeman
Very Christlike, sir!
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:09 am to I B Freeman
Yes
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:11 am to I B Freeman
The fact that criminals can abuse charitable institutions says more about our legal system than it does about Charity. How many lepers returned to thank the Lord when they were healed?
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:11 am to I B Freeman
Unpopular opinion: 99.9% of charity is enabling.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:12 am to I B Freeman
Everybody gotta eat baw.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:14 am to I B Freeman
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Fist off do you think that is true?
My own personal experience with a drug addict (my sister) showed me nothing YOU do will help them get clean or change their lifestyle. That only happens when they personally decide it’s time to change. So I don’t see how providing food is enabling them.
That said, you may be enabling others who aren’t drug addicts.
But if the biblical imperative is to be charitable, then that is why you give. Regardless of the unintended consequences.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:17 am to I B Freeman
Isaiah 58:10
If you pour yourself out for the hungry and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then you a stupid arse MFer.
If you pour yourself out for the hungry and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then you a stupid arse MFer.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:17 am to I B Freeman
A local restaurant provides free meals on Christmas Day. Local TV reporter interviewed a 10 +/- year old waiting in line for his meal. Young lad said “I opened up my Chrimmus this morning and then came down here to eat. Wish they would hurry up and get it ready.” 
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:20 am to I B Freeman
They enable people to clean out their pantries
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:27 am to I B Freeman
Not gonna lie, i have bought several homes guys a beer this holiday season. Figured when i got to the gas station and i was getting some beer, might as well let them enjoy in the festivities too.
Everyone is gonna wanna drink a cold beer
Everyone is gonna wanna drink a cold beer
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:31 am to I B Freeman
I'm for feeding anyone that's hungry.
There's too much food in this Country for anyone to hunger.
I'm not a fan of the aggressive panhandlers on all the on and off ramps around B'ham.
I'm 100% for public Lunch Rooms.Food Banks.New Coats for kids.
There's too much food in this Country for anyone to hunger.
I'm not a fan of the aggressive panhandlers on all the on and off ramps around B'ham.
I'm 100% for public Lunch Rooms.Food Banks.New Coats for kids.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:34 am to I B Freeman
I have the same thoughts about the annual school backpack and school supplies giveaways. People rely on those now and they aren’t being taught self-reliance or strategies on how to be able to afford their own backpack next year.
They should run those things like a timeshare seminar. Yeah, you get the free vacation but you have to sit through a sales pitch first.
They should run those things like a timeshare seminar. Yeah, you get the free vacation but you have to sit through a sales pitch first.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:38 am to I B Freeman
I think you over simplify what it would take to treat the addiction. When they get to the level of "hopeless", no one wants to get clean more than the junkie or drunk.....when they are messed up. It is a complicated dynamic. They want to get clean and off it, but they cannot help themselves and in the case of the real addict being off the junk is physically painful.
Feeding them at shelters is more prefferable than not. Many shelters can refer these addicts to programs and treatment centers. It is a point of contact. You will never relieve society of the drunk or the addict, unfortunately
Feeding them at shelters is more prefferable than not. Many shelters can refer these addicts to programs and treatment centers. It is a point of contact. You will never relieve society of the drunk or the addict, unfortunately
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:42 am to I B Freeman
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Are food banks "enablers" of drug addicts??
No, everyone has to eat. If being homeless isn't enough of a deterrent for someone to get help for a drug addiction, you think limiting access to a food bank will?
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I am told the only way to really get an addict to reform is make them stand completely on their own
The only way an addict will get sober is if they want to, pretty much every addict will need some help from others a long the way to get sober.
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I have traditionally contributed to my local food bank but if feeding these drug addicts is keeping them from taking care to themselves on their own am I doing the right thing?
You aren't going to continue to help hungry people because some of them may have drug problems?
How sheltered are you?
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:16 am to I B Freeman
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Are food banks "enablers" of drug addicts??
I bet you’re one of these people who cheer cutting food stamp programs in order to funnel more money to Lockheed Martin
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given the vast welfare available to the poor?
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:38 am to I B Freeman
Are people forced to support food banks via tariffs?
Are soy beans included?
Is someone getting a tax credit for filming a documentary about druggies and food banks?
My take...it is your money/food. If you want to stop your donations because someone may be taking advantage...cool. For me, I will continue to give on the off chance that one hungry person actually gets some needed assistance. Peace.
Are soy beans included?
Is someone getting a tax credit for filming a documentary about druggies and food banks?
My take...it is your money/food. If you want to stop your donations because someone may be taking advantage...cool. For me, I will continue to give on the off chance that one hungry person actually gets some needed assistance. Peace.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:39 am to I B Freeman
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How does anyone other than an absolute druggie do without food given the vast welfare available to the poor?
You have to realize that in modern society there is somewhat of an in between class
People that are not considered poor enough by the government do qualify for any assistance that legitimately struggle to provide for their family
Call it the lower rung of the middle class if you must but these people exist
I know because I've met them
For instance, I just looked on the SNAP website for Texas eligibility. If you're a single mom with 2 kids that would mean that you are not eligible for any assistance at income levels above $2,933 a month
That's not an income that can easily support a mother and 2 children. Once you take out FICA taxes, rent, utilities, vehicle costs including fuel and insurance, and other necessities like clothing, cleaning supplies etc. you're not left with much.
In fact I'd bet very few people here could adjust their lives to that budget without a lot of prior planning.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:41 am to I B Freeman
Food banks are tools for crime control.
People on welfare would steal/rob. People who refuse to work in this economy are helpless and wouldn't work if faced with starvation.
You basically pay a "dont rob me" tax.
People on welfare would steal/rob. People who refuse to work in this economy are helpless and wouldn't work if faced with starvation.
You basically pay a "dont rob me" tax.
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:13 am to I B Freeman
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Are food banks "enablers" of drug addicts??
No.
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