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re: TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be

Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:27 pm to
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TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be

I agree. A few simple edits make would have made it a lot better.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:32 pm to
























It’s a really bad dumb movie.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:57 pm to
It makes Attack of the Clones appear decent.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:10 pm to
The last Jedi was a Disney/marvel feeling farce parading as Star Wars
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:14 pm to
Was it bad? Yes

Does it deserve the 2 year melt/outrage it has received? Of course not, it's just a fricking movie.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:05 pm to
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TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be


just gonna leave this right here
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:57 pm to
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mainly for what it did to Luke.



That's major, but the real travesty is that it *didn't* do anything for anyone else. Nothing was developed. The depth of the entire film could be effectively captured in an opening scroll. That should be the title. Episode 8: The Long Scroll. Just because Episode 8: Basically Where We Left Episode 7 Minus Snoke and Luke Plus Rose Tico is too long.
Posted by Cow Drogo
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be


Oh yes it was, it was bad, bad. Mary Poppins Leia was just horrific.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:38 pm to
I just rewatched the opening scene again....yes it was worse than people say. Go read the opening scroll.... It sounds nothing like verbage from any other star wars movie.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be


Are you kidding?

Think of the murdered childhoods.

Literally millions of them in the streets.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 5:26 pm to
Yes it was.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 6:47 pm to
It’s a disaster in terms of writing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:08 am to
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But if they would not have trashed Luke the way they did IMO it would have been an ok movie.

no

ignoring the Luke bullshite and the SJW bullshite

they created a literal dead end to the story and completely ruined any chance of Rey having a legitimate character arc or any development at all. she is the centerpiece of the new trilogy and became a terrible character with nothing rational to do after TLJ. that's inexcusable for the middle chapter of a trilogy
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:09 am to
4 things that I disliked about TLJ:

1. Yoda manipulating the world as a ghost
2. Rey again has no struggle to overcome
3. All the men are incompetent compared to all the women
4. Luke was ruined in every way
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:30 am to
Well, I've been a pretty hardcore SW fan my whole life. Read like 40+ SW novels. I've watched all the movies many times over. Including the Prequels and Solo. I've played through SW:KOTOR 1 and 2 at least 5 times each.
I really thought SW could do no wrong. I was wrong. TLJ is the only SW film I dont own a copy of and I have not been able to even sit and watch it a 2nd time. I've tried.
It's bad. Really really really bad.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 10:32 am
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 1:24 pm to
TLJ is worse than people say it is. Putting aside its plot, character, acting, and pacing issues TLJ literally destroyed the Star Wars Universe. Attack of the Clones is an overstuffed boring horrific mess, it absolutely sucked, but it didn't actively destroy the entire Star Wars universe while retconning everything meaningful in the established movies. TLJ did exactly that.

Luke Skywalker attempted to murder his sleeping child nephew son of his best friend in cold blood because of a bad dream.

Leia is a pathetic mess of a leader with no spine or intelligence.

Yoda has the ability to force lightening from beyond the grave but uses it to burn down a tree instead of the literally thousands of useful applications.

The leadership of the resistance tells its subordinates to shut the frick up and follow orders without question.

Vader's grandson trained by Luke is a babbling moron who constantly gets his arse kicked.

The entire Canto Bright story line and every scene Rose is in.

The Sith not only weren't defeated in RotJ, but there were more of them and they came back stronger. Same goes for the Empire.

I could go on and on. frick Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy and Disney and everyone involved in that sit show
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 2:49 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 1:26 pm to
quote:


TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be


Yes it was every bit as bad as people make it out to be if not worse.

Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28151 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 1:45 pm to
No, it was crap
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