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TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:44 am
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:44 am
Does anyone else have this opinion? I’m not saying it wasn’t bad. But if they would not have trashed Luke the way they did IMO it would have been an ok movie. I have to admit I’m not a long time Star Wars fan. I recently got Disney+ and started watching them all as they were released. So in the last month or so I watched them all except for Solo and Rogue One. I was expecting TLJ to be terrible and was pleasantly surprised for it to only be bad..... and mainly for what it did to Luke.
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:47 am to SelaTiger
True, it was much, much worse.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:47 am to SelaTiger
Fake news as TLJ isn't even on Disney+ yet. Get this Disney plant out of here!
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:48 am to SelaTiger
I tried watching it again recently. It's actually worse than many people make it out to be.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:48 am to SelaTiger
I didn't hate it, I just thought it was a boring film.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:49 am to SelaTiger
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if they would not have trashed Luke the way they did IMO it would have been an ok movie
Maybe if they cut the 35 minute casino scene that’s pointless and didn’t grant Leia force power randomly it maybe could have been decent.
I walked out of that theater shocked at how they managed to screw it so bad lmao.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:50 am to RollTide1987
I also have Netflix. I started watching Solo which is also on netflix.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:51 am to SelaTiger
I did at first, because the film does a lot of important movie things right. The visuals are exceptional, the acting is largely excellent, the plot is anything but predictable, however, the more I thought about it and watched it, the less I enjoyed it. The plot is a mess, pacing is a disaster, and the film seems to disregard previous character development and plots begun in the previous movie. In addition, it greatly diminishes the cohesion and story of the original films.
It’s much worse than I expected. It’s essentially a franchise ruiner, and should have been scrapped before release or be retconned out of existence.
It’s much worse than I expected. It’s essentially a franchise ruiner, and should have been scrapped before release or be retconned out of existence.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:53 am to SelaTiger
I like basically everything, even bad movies if they are entertaining.
TLJ was bad and not entertaining. It had really forced scenes that made no sense and felt disconnected to the story. I had a hard time finishing it.
This coming from a guy that watched the entire Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds because I was bored the other night
TLJ was bad and not entertaining. It had really forced scenes that made no sense and felt disconnected to the story. I had a hard time finishing it.
This coming from a guy that watched the entire Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds because I was bored the other night
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:54 am to SelaTiger
I enjoyed most of it. Leia flying through the sky Luke's arc I didn't much care for, but I didn't lose my mind over those parts. It's just a movie, and for the 2 hours I was in the theater that day I was entertained.
I get a lot of the criticisms of it though.
I get a lot of the criticisms of it though.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:54 am to McCaigBro69
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and didn’t grant Leia force power randomly
Oh c'mon Leia Poppins was the highlight of the entire movie.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:54 am to kingbob
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The plot is a mess, pacing is a disaster, and the film seems to disregard previous character development and plots begun in the previous movie. In addition, it greatly diminishes the cohesion and story of the original films.
Well said.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:56 am to SelaTiger
I have no idea if it is as bad as people are making it out to be. I have yet to see it. they lost me at TFA, it became painfully obvious the machine had taken over.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:56 am to SelaTiger
It was worse. Much much worse.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:58 am to Centinel
It was probably the worst thing story wise that could happen at that point. Imagine how much more interesting Kylo becomes if Leah dies there. Kylo can’t take the shot because there’s still good in him. He loves his mother deep down, but believes that he must defeat her to accomplish his destiny. He has the chance, but he can’t take the shot, he can’t do it, but she dies anyway. That sets him up for an extremely interesting journey through the light and dark sides of the force. Instead, we get Leah alive, but the actress dead, and conflict resolved. Leah Poppins was a sorta cool visual but bad story telling.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:59 am to kingbob
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I did at first, because the film does a lot of important movie things right. The visuals are exceptional, the acting is largely excellent, the plot is anything but predictable, however, the more I thought about it and watched it, the less I enjoyed it. The plot is a mess, pacing is a disaster, and the film seems to disregard previous character development and plots begun in the previous movie. In addition, it greatly diminishes the cohesion and story of the original films.
Pretty much how I felt.
Also it felt like the end of the trilogy. I mean there are only about 8 rebels left on the Falcon. What's the point of anymore movies.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:59 am to kingbob
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Leah
Who is Leah?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:00 am to kingbob
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The plot is a mess, pacing is a disaster, and the film seems to disregard previous character development and plots begun in the previous movie. In addition, it greatly diminishes the cohesion and story of the original films.
All of this.
And that's before we even get into some of the all-time stupid moments like the opening prank call, the WWII bombing run in space, Leia in space, Laura Dern sacrificing herself to hyperdrive as if there wasn't a damn autopilot or droid capable, and some sort of weird salt planet trench warfare against Death Star tech.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:02 am to lsufan9193969700
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Who is Leah?
the sister of Blake Skywalker.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:02 am to SelaTiger
I have this opinion and argued it for a year after release with people just reduced to calling me names and insulting me.
Truth is the Star Wars property had so much hype around it people were not going to be happy with even a "perfect" star wars movie. Everyone is too attached.
The easiest way to prove my point is the prequels when released were trashed as hard if not harder than the current trilogy. And now that we have new movies to trash, all of a sudden people are retconning their feelings about the prequels. It'll likely happen again when Disney tries a new Star Wars story as well.
Did Rian Johnson just phone it in and didn't help this whole thing? Sure maybe but it's surely not as bad as the backlash.
Truth is the Star Wars property had so much hype around it people were not going to be happy with even a "perfect" star wars movie. Everyone is too attached.
The easiest way to prove my point is the prequels when released were trashed as hard if not harder than the current trilogy. And now that we have new movies to trash, all of a sudden people are retconning their feelings about the prequels. It'll likely happen again when Disney tries a new Star Wars story as well.
Did Rian Johnson just phone it in and didn't help this whole thing? Sure maybe but it's surely not as bad as the backlash.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 11:05 am
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