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Wife wants to scrape off and refinish textured ceilings
Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:35 am
Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:35 am
Our house was built in 1955 and is in my opinion a MCM ranch masterpiece.
Wife loathes the textured (not really "popcorn", my limited research shows it's what is called a "knockout" patterned finish) ceilings featured in entry foyer, main hallway, office, and all bedrooms and wants her father to scrape them off with some weed whacker looking orbital scraper contraption that arrived unexpectedly last night from Amazon. Then to refinish them.
I put my foot down and it caused a huge row - absolutely nightmare project in my opinion. Couldn't sleep and my internet research shows that the vast majority of MCM houses built in the 50's through 80's have textured ceilings.
The dust (we are finally wrapping up a guest bathroom remodel and the dust was UNBEARABLE) and time and effort it would cause to undergo this project makes me sad.
Just wanted opinions - I can post pictures later in the am. Thanks
Wife loathes the textured (not really "popcorn", my limited research shows it's what is called a "knockout" patterned finish) ceilings featured in entry foyer, main hallway, office, and all bedrooms and wants her father to scrape them off with some weed whacker looking orbital scraper contraption that arrived unexpectedly last night from Amazon. Then to refinish them.
I put my foot down and it caused a huge row - absolutely nightmare project in my opinion. Couldn't sleep and my internet research shows that the vast majority of MCM houses built in the 50's through 80's have textured ceilings.
The dust (we are finally wrapping up a guest bathroom remodel and the dust was UNBEARABLE) and time and effort it would cause to undergo this project makes me sad.
Just wanted opinions - I can post pictures later in the am. Thanks
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 6:28 am
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:40 am to SirWinston
Here's a picture of the textured ceiling in one of the guest bedrooms
Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:46 am to SirWinston
If they bought a power tool off of amazon to do it they are probably about to frick shite up. Proper way is to wet and scrape it down. A lot of times the Sheetrock is finished shitty because the finisher knew it was gonna be sprayed... so you may have to get someone to refinish again if you are going for the smooth look.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:10 am to SirWinston
it’s gonna look like shite underneath and will take A LOT of mudding and sanding then u will have to paint. And even then it won’t be perfect and she may notice those imperfections if she’s picky.
I’d rip the ceilings out in those areas and hang new.
I’d rip the ceilings out in those areas and hang new.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:20 am to SirWinston
Is it plaster or sheetrock. If sheetrock and the spray texture you might want to get it tested for asbestos. We did a powder room then paid someone to do the rest. They set up each room like a Dexter kill room.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:23 am to SirWinston
We hired a guy to do it. He does an amazing job, super professional. Been costing about $500-$600 per room for this.
Great room is next. Problem is the ceiling is 20ft high. I have the feeling the cost is gonna jump a lot on that room.
Great room is next. Problem is the ceiling is 20ft high. I have the feeling the cost is gonna jump a lot on that room.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:34 am to SirWinston
I had it removed from a house I lived in in Florida. It was pretty easy. Just spray with water, let sit, scrape. I was fortunate in that whoever hung and finished the ceilings under it did a great job. All I had to do was paint the ceilings after it was removed.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:36 am to SirWinston
Refinish to what, smooth ceilings? Those are much more difficult to do and every imperfection will show. You have to go back and properly mud all the joints and nail heads, sand them down to perfectly smooth and then paint. That only makes it look good at the start. Any stains, dings, dents, etc. will always pop on a smooth ceiling.
I could understand getting rid of popcorn ceilings but textured ceilings of some kind make a lot of sense.
I could understand getting rid of popcorn ceilings but textured ceilings of some kind make a lot of sense.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:14 pm to SirWinston
We built our house in 2014 with all smooth walls and ceilings except the garage is popcorn (I don't know why, but it is). The problem I see with smooth...you can see every paint change, roller pattern, and nail pop coming through the sheetrock if the installer sucked. Hint: Our Mexicans sucked. They didn't run the screws down until it dimpled the paper...and thus we have sheetrock slap and it pops the paint....got another crew in under warranty to fix it. Better but we are still finding pops. I don't know that I'd see that in a textured ceiling...maybe...maybe not.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:44 pm to SirWinston
1/4 in drywall and cover it up if you want it smooth
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:22 pm to SirWinston
When is your FIL going back to his homeland? 
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:37 pm to SirWinston
Who is the man of the house your FIL or you? Sounds like your constantly being cucked by him. Stand up for yourself good god. Keep the textured ceiling.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:59 pm to SirWinston
quote:would it possibly look like this
with some weed whacker looking orbital scraper contraption
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:07 am to SirWinston
When we remodeled our house we had this finish on the ceilings. The Sheetrock guy just used mud to smooth it out, he didn’t remove anything. Came out perfect.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:15 pm to SirWinston
if you scrape it off it will damage the surface under it so the whole thing will have to be floated and sanded smooth.
the reason is they wet it to soften it and that also softens the paper skin of the sheetrock so it tears and peels in spots that need repair after
best way is 2 choices:
1 - simply put a skim coat of mud over it and sand smooth then repaint
2 - just sand it smooth, skim coat with mud, re-sand smooth and paint
the reason is they wet it to soften it and that also softens the paper skin of the sheetrock so it tears and peels in spots that need repair after
best way is 2 choices:
1 - simply put a skim coat of mud over it and sand smooth then repaint
2 - just sand it smooth, skim coat with mud, re-sand smooth and paint
Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:32 pm to SirWinston
Being painted makes a major difference because you can no longer simply wet out texture with warm water and scrape off with ease. The effort is probably along the lines of being squared.
There's also the unknown of what's lurking beneath the surface. If the ceiling wasn't primed first and just sprayed (on raw SR) this is also going to result in a bad subsurface. And like many have said before, if it wasn't finished before for painting, it's going to have to be done now.
3 options I've tried skim coating, sanding with a vacuum sander, and throwing up new 1/4". They all work. The 1/4" route was chosen because the ceiling was also wavy and we were also going to put up crown molding from the start. eta: the sanded method still requires a thin skim coat.
If you haven't refinished SR before this can be quite the task.
There's also the unknown of what's lurking beneath the surface. If the ceiling wasn't primed first and just sprayed (on raw SR) this is also going to result in a bad subsurface. And like many have said before, if it wasn't finished before for painting, it's going to have to be done now.
3 options I've tried skim coating, sanding with a vacuum sander, and throwing up new 1/4". They all work. The 1/4" route was chosen because the ceiling was also wavy and we were also going to put up crown molding from the start. eta: the sanded method still requires a thin skim coat.
If you haven't refinished SR before this can be quite the task.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 5:36 pm
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