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So what exactly is the main argument against universal healthcare

Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:34 pm
I have a tough time wrapping my head around why people support the status quo in lieu of other alternatives

Our current system is by far the costliest in the world and it is certainly not the best system.



If you defend the current system please tell me why
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47697 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:34 pm to
NB4 muh socialism.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17515 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:35 pm to
Do you even taxes bro?
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2098 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:36 pm to
If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it's free.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:36 pm to
$52T
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it's free.


Yeah. Just ignore the graph proving that we already have the most expensive healthcare system in the world by a wide margin

Nothing to see there right
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41812 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:38 pm to
Because you have to sacrifice availability and/or quality to offer affordability.

Also there are changes that can be made to our current system to improve outcomes that don't involve getting the government more involved and making everything worse.
This post was edited on 11/2/19 at 2:41 pm
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:38 pm to
Cost and potential decrease in number of caregivers results in loss of quality of care.

When cardiologists, gastroenterologists, nephrologists, radiologists and neurologists are forced to care for patients at govt rates their numbers will decrease.

The wait for services will become a problem for many. If you had a family member with cancer, would you be cool with a 6 month wait for MRI/PET scans?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6078 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:38 pm to
What drives in innovation, research and better facilities with cutting edge techniques and equipment?

Tell me something you believe the government runs/manages really really well and surpasses the capabilities of the free market driven competition.

Who pays for nationalized healthcare?
Why is it okay that half of this country doesn’t contribute financially and the other half is held accountable for every bill?

If I’m not paying a dime into the system I benefit from, why would I vote any other way than nationalize it ALL.

That seem right to you?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112758 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:39 pm to
Healthcare as it stands is a disaster

The Republicans basically abandoning the issue after McCain fricked them is going to come back to haunt them.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:39 pm to
Because I have a very hard time paying for some random persons free crap.
That, and I have a very hard time with government telling people how long they would have to wait for surgery, treatments, etc.
Add to that that I have a very hard time with anyone telling me / forcing me to pay for some random persons crap.


So yeah, frick socialized medicine and anyone who actually falls for the notion that it’s better.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Cost

I've proven this argument is essentially garbage

We already have the most expensive system in the world and it's not even close
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36255 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

So what exactly is the main argument against universal healthcare

That forcing higher taxes upon large segments of the population to pay for medical services for other people is not only immoral, but unconstitutional.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

So what exactly is the main argument against universal healthcare


Well, $52T for one thing.

quote:


Our current system is by far the costliest in the world and it is certainly not the best system.

Except, of course, that it is.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17297 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:40 pm to
Do you envy the VA Healthcare System?

Does the government run the Post Office and SSI programs efficiently?

How about Medicare and Medicaid?

Why do you support More Government when the intent of the Constitution is small government?

Why do you hate freedom?
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3643 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:41 pm to
Why does being against government run healthcare require that I be supporting of our current system?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Because I have a very hard time paying for some random persons free crap.

But you already do that under the current system...
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

proving that we already have the most expensive healthcare system in the world by a wide margin


Lies.

So, why don’t you libturds move to a cheaper country and live out your jim jones utopia?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

I've proven this argument is essentially garbage


Lol, no you haven't. That you think you have is cute, though.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

I've proven this argument is essentially garbage


YOU have proven nothing.
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