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re: Should the National League adopt the designated hitter?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:37 am to Fairbanks
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:37 am to Fairbanks
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Pitchers were bad at hitting decades ago, but nothing like today. They basically aren’t practicing hitting once they hit age 14.
This is my issue. If pitchers were generally bad hitters but actually made the effort I think I'd be okay with it, but seeing nearly every pitcher with a sub .100 BA as they lazily swing at every pitch is a waste of an AB.
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:38 am to Fairbanks
No.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:43 am to theGarnetWay
quote:
This is my issue. If pitchers were generally bad hitters but actually made the effort I think I'd be okay with it, but seeing nearly every pitcher with a sub .100 BA as they lazily swing at every pitch is a waste of an AB.
between this and forcing us to see more bullpen usage, I'm definitely onboard the DH train for the NL now, and I was staunchly opposed up to this season.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:56 am to Fairbanks
2019 AL batting average: .254
2019 NL batting average: .253
DH makes a huge difference. We need it bad.
ETA:
League | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS
AL | .254 | .323 | .440 | .763
NL | .253 | .323 | .433 | .756
Giant difference. If we don’t adopt the DH in the NL, the game will die.
2019 NL batting average: .253
DH makes a huge difference. We need it bad.
ETA:
League | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS
AL | .254 | .323 | .440 | .763
NL | .253 | .323 | .433 | .756
Giant difference. If we don’t adopt the DH in the NL, the game will die.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 11:56 am
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:59 am to theGarnetWay
quote:
Pitchers were bad at hitting decades ago, but nothing like today. They basically aren’t practicing hitting once they hit age 14.
Pitchers this year are hitting .131/.166/.165. Twenty years ago they hit, .147/.187/.189. So it is worse now, but it’s not that drastic.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:04 am to The Seaward
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Pitchers this year are hitting .131/.166/.165. Twenty years ago they hit, .147/.187/.189. So it is worse now, but it’s not that drastic.
Doesn't convince me that it isn't a waste of an AB.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:05 am to Fairbanks
I like the pitchers batting. 9 in the field should be the 9 batting IMO.
But I think the DH spot is inevitable.
But I think the DH spot is inevitable.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:05 am to theGarnetWay
quote:
This is my issue. If pitchers were generally bad hitters but actually made the effort I think I'd be okay with it, but seeing nearly every pitcher with a sub .100 BA as they lazily swing at every pitch is a waste of an AB.
Adam Everett was basically done as a MLB player at age 32 even though he was still one of the four or five best defensive shortstops in baseball at the time because he couldn't hit. If a pitcher put up the offensive numbers Adam Everett put up in his last season as a regular (.238/.288/.325), he would be considered a really good hitter.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:06 am to theGarnetWay
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Doesn't convince me that it isn't a waste of an AB.
Oh, I agree. I’m just saying it’s always been a waste.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:22 am to Fairbanks
no
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:25 am to Fairbanks
Sure, and let's just burn the flag and get rid of capitalism why we're at it
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:26 am to Fairbanks
No, I like the added strategy of having pitchers hit.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:28 am to Fairbanks
No. NL plays real baseball and should keep it that way. No Substitute Batters! We used to do that shite when my dad made us let my little sister play with us but professionals are not 10 year old kids.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:29 am to Zappas Stache
The AL owns the NL.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:33 am to Fairbanks
Goddamnit, no. AL baseball is less exciting. Plus, having a pitcher who can control the bat is a huge advantage for a club.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:36 am to SoFla Tideroller
If a guy has the athletic ability/baseball skills to become a major league pitcher, then shouldn’t they also be a decent enough hitter to at least knock it around in HS?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:46 am to theGarnetWay
dodger's pitchers are hitting .170. That's better than some middle infielders on other teams....and so can we substitute hit for infielders that are amazing on defense but can't hit?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:55 am to msutiger
I was also anti-DH because of the Astros and still am now. I agree that the DH makes the game more entertaining in a way.
I just feel like the pitcher hitting is a part of the game. If a pitcher throws heat on the inside of the plate, then he should also have to face heat. If a pitcher has a good game going but comes up to bat in the later innings with runners on in a close game, the manager has a tough decision to make (which is how baseball should be played).
I just feel like the pitcher hitting is a part of the game. If a pitcher throws heat on the inside of the plate, then he should also have to face heat. If a pitcher has a good game going but comes up to bat in the later innings with runners on in a close game, the manager has a tough decision to make (which is how baseball should be played).
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:56 am to Fairbanks
quote:maybe they need to start
They basically aren’t practicing hitting once they hit age 14.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 11:40 am to xiv
Why are you comparing the 2019 AL to 2018 NL? You should compare across the same year. If hitting is down this year compared to last, that comparison is ridiculous. It seems like you’re deliberately picking and choosing stats there.
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