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re: Griffin Sports Illustrated article
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:51 pm to partywiththelombardi
Posted on 8/1/19 at 12:51 pm to partywiththelombardi
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David Griffin is the type that strikes me as a guy with a playoff push trade deadline shortlist already
Wonder who he is eyeballing if we are close?
Beal and Myles Turner probably top the list. I would also be interested in Gallinari.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:21 pm to PelicansBay
Great article, a couple things that stuck out to me:
"Redick has reached the postseason in each of his 13 seasons."
This is crazy to me.
"New Orleans eagerly scooped Nickeil Alexander-Walker at No. 17, some members of its scouting department having ranked him as high as fourth on their boards."
Some of our scouts having NAW as high as 4 lends some legitimacy to the performance he had this summer. Really excited about him.
"Redick has reached the postseason in each of his 13 seasons."
This is crazy to me.
"New Orleans eagerly scooped Nickeil Alexander-Walker at No. 17, some members of its scouting department having ranked him as high as fourth on their boards."
Some of our scouts having NAW as high as 4 lends some legitimacy to the performance he had this summer. Really excited about him.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:00 pm to teke184
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Beal seems like a no-brainer.
He drops off the list if he signs that extension with Washington, though, because the math becomes an issue.
If we trade for him it shouldn't necessarily?
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:23 pm to PelicansBay
Haven't read it yet. The Jump kinda talked about it, in that it was 15 minutes of "how dare he say that about Lebron". Only mention of the Pels was the idea that maybe he was talking bad about Lebron to appeal to Gayle.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:27 pm to PelicansBay
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New Orleans eagerly scooped Nickeil Alexander-Walker at No. 17, some members of its scouting department having ranked him as high as fourth on their boards.
This is the point "chad ford had this guy as a second rounder! We could have waited" guy never gets. You don't know what the boards of actual scouts look like.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:32 pm to BilJ
That's why the whole "this guy is moving up boards fast!" meme always cracks me up.
No he isn't. The amateur draftniks are catching up to where the scouts already have guys rated...and every team has very different boards.
No he isn't. The amateur draftniks are catching up to where the scouts already have guys rated...and every team has very different boards.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:33 pm to BilJ
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. New Orleans hopes Williamson is merely one rookie of three lottery-level newcomers, like any good parent refusing to pick a favorite. “If you start there, and Zion is just one of that ‘recruiting class,’ then what you hope, if you get really lucky, if you’re successful, they become our Tim [Duncan], Manu [Ginobili] and Tony [Parker] that lay the groundwork for what it means to be one of us 11 years from now,” Griffin says. “And Jrue, JJ and Derrick are gonna be the ones that teach these kids what it is today. You hope it’s something that continues to feed itself.”
Good to see many of the mistakes made with AD won't be repeated. We were always like the insecure fat chick trying to please someone out of her league
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:35 pm to saintsfan22
quote:Right, he couldn't possibly be telling the truth when he says that he didn't enjoy working with the Cavs, due to the way that they had to build around LeBron. Even though he has mentioned that several times.
Only mention of the Pels was the idea that maybe he was talking bad about Lebron to appeal to Gayle.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 3:39 pm to Epic Cajun
Better shows than The Jump make note that for most GM's the pleasure is in the process.
Getting in at the ground floor with a lot of freedom to do things the way you want to build things is what a lot of GM's all truly want.
And Griffin has said a version of that multiple times as you say.
It's really not that shocking that a GM like Griffin isn't the fondest of a situation where he is having his hands tied/forced, and that if anything doesn't go right he gets to be the fall guy.
Though I want to say it continues to be impressive to me the candor Griffin is willing to speak with to the media(I'm sure his background helps). A lot still is clearly strategic, but it's a nice change of pace from decades of the Parcells/Belichick unnecessarily antagonistic approach.
Getting in at the ground floor with a lot of freedom to do things the way you want to build things is what a lot of GM's all truly want.
And Griffin has said a version of that multiple times as you say.
It's really not that shocking that a GM like Griffin isn't the fondest of a situation where he is having his hands tied/forced, and that if anything doesn't go right he gets to be the fall guy.
Though I want to say it continues to be impressive to me the candor Griffin is willing to speak with to the media(I'm sure his background helps). A lot still is clearly strategic, but it's a nice change of pace from decades of the Parcells/Belichick unnecessarily antagonistic approach.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 3:50 pm to Bronc
Saw that David Griffin was trending on twitter and came to find out why, lol.
The world is up-in-arms about the LeBron stuff, and LeBron supposedly offended and upset because he thought that he and Griffin had a good relationship, etc. -- but I love it. LeBron is the enemy now, and that's a good bridge for Griffin to burn.
The world is up-in-arms about the LeBron stuff, and LeBron supposedly offended and upset because he thought that he and Griffin had a good relationship, etc. -- but I love it. LeBron is the enemy now, and that's a good bridge for Griffin to burn.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 4:18 pm to GOP_Tiger
where's the lie though? he's right LeBron gets all of the credit and none of the criticism when things go wrong
Posted on 8/1/19 at 4:25 pm to roguepelican
Truth or not, he definitely could have been more diplomatic about it. Shots were fired for sure. It says to me Griff is pretty comfortable where he is and felt the chance to exercise a few demons from his past.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 4:28 pm to GOP_Tiger
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LeBron supposedly offended and upset
God he's such a baby. But upsetting Lebron is not the thing you want, if he fires back then half of the worlds population is going to hate you too.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 5:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Yeah this is blowing up. Espn ignored the context and rest of article and the hot take artists are out in force crushing Griffin.
Lebron is supposedly angry and offended and may have a whole Shop episode about it.
It’s absolutely absurd but Griff definitely should have known better.
Lebron is supposedly angry and offended and may have a whole Shop episode about it.
It’s absolutely absurd but Griff definitely should have known better.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 5:59 pm to Fun Bunch
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Griff definitely should have known better.
He should have but
quote:
this is blowing up.
I'm not saying it's not, but it's happening at about the most dead part of the year for sports news. So hopefully lesson learned and no major harm done.
ETA, also it helps having the biggest news breaker in the business in your corner.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
Covered a lot of ground in recent pod with David Griffin on building around LeBron James in Cleveland and his consistent context was this: The scrutiny and unforgiving pressure surrounding the environment inspired the joylessness of Cavs title run, not James himself.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 8/1/19 at 6:00 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:frick it.
Yeah this is blowing up. Espn ignored the context and rest of article and the hot take artists are out in force crushing Griffin.
Lebron is supposedly angry and offended and may have a whole Shop episode about it.
It’s absolutely absurd but Griff definitely should have known better.
We spent the entire Davis tenure as the league's, and the media's, punching bag. Basically a decade defending our existence as a franchise.
It feels great to actually have a real advocate. frick their hurt feelings. Whats gonna happen? Lebron's gonna decide not to sign in New Orleans?
Posted on 8/1/19 at 6:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
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LeBron supposedly offended and upset because he thought that he and Griffin had a good relationship, etc. --
Link?
Posted on 8/1/19 at 6:13 pm to Lsuismyfav
I haven't seen the ESPN coverage but I did see a defensive tweet from one of LeBron's flunkies attacking Griffin.
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Kendrick Perkins @KendrickPerkins
Would Griff have any credibility if he wasn’t in the front office with Lebron on team? Griff for the last 2 years you praised Lebron for buying into the Culture in Cleveland and how professional he was and now your saying it’s inorganic?! Your real problem was Dan Gilbert!!!
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 8/1/19 at 6:32 pm to TigerinATL
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Your real problem was Dan Gilbert!!!
Griff said that in the article.
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The prophecy didn’t call for the chance to do it twice, but Griffin never truly felt comfortable in his Cleveland skin. “And I knew it. I vibrate at a totally different frequency than that group, from an ownership perspective,” he says. “Getting away from it made me find who I really am.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 6:44 pm to TigerinATL
How wasn't it diplomatic? he didn't actually call out LeBron he called out the situation. it's as if people aren't actually reading what he said.
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