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re: Breaking: SCOTUS approves use of Pentagon funds for Border Wall

Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by PhDoogan
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77438 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

Hawaiian judge will still try to overturn.



they should immediately be removed from the bench if they do...
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:36 pm to
Does anyone have a link to the actual SCOTUS written opinion as of yet?

There was never any real question in any objective mind that certain military funds COULD be used for the construction of border barriers. That question is not even particularly interesting, even if some Leftist district judge ruled otherwise.

The interesting questions turn upon the “emergency“ funds, whether an executive declaration of “emergency“ under the NEA is subject to judicial review, and exactly WHAT TYPE of construction is allowed under the NEA.

Does anyone know if these issues are addressed in this opinion?


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I have always found it interesting to watch the downvotes roll in when someone simply asks for more information in the middle of a premature,Trump-centric circle jerk. I suppose that it is simply too difficult for the celebrants to hold off on releasing that excitement until the moment is right.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 7:10 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99569 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:39 pm to
And I was not going to drink in celebration tonight.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

The interesting questions turn upon the “emergency“ funds, whether an executive declaration of “emergency“ under the NEA is subject to judicial review, and exactly WHAT TYPE of construction is allowed under the NEA.


The NEA does not specify what constitutes a "national emergency" so as to justify judicial review, President Obama declared tons of national emergencies relating to international stuff that barely affected America at all. Considering what happens on OUR OWN BORDER, I'm pretty sure this passes the smell test demonstrably.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

The NEA does not specify what constitutes a "national emergency" so as to justify judicial review, President Obama declared tons of national emergencies relating to international stuff that barely affected America at all. Considering what happens on OUR OWN BORDER, I'm pretty sure this passes the smell test demonstrably.
perhaps… None of which answers the question that I asked

Again, does anyone know whether this opinion actually addresses these questions?

Does anyone have a link to the written opinion?

Thus far, this thread seems to contain a great deal of celebration about a ruling that no one knows anything about. It reminds me of last summer, when the board was declaring world-altering victory as a result of the ministerial rescheduling of a temporary injunction hearing.

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The statement suggested that the five justices in the majority agreed with the Trump administration’s arguments that the groups who obtained the injunction, the Sierra Club and the Southern Border Communities Coalition, lacked a valid legal mechanism to enforce the budget rider Trump officials were allegedly violating. That may not rule out the possibility that others who have sued over the same policy, including 20 states and the House of Representatives, might have stronger claims. The states’ suit was essentially set aside due to the injunction granted to the private groups.
So, this may be nothing more than a ruling that the Sierra Club lacks standing.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:00 pm to
Nancy melting


quote:

Nancy Pelosi
?Verified account @SpeakerPelosi

This evening’s Supreme Court ruling allowing @realDonaldTrump to steal military funds to spend on a wasteful, ineffective border wall rejected by Congress is deeply flawed. Our Founders designed a democracy governed by the people — not a monarchy.



Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29255 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:02 pm to
What a horrible week for the Dems. Lol
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:06 pm to
So is the 9th circuit going to over rule the SCOTUS?
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7979 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:09 pm to
That crooked bitch thinks she’s a person worth listening to?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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74689 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:10 pm to
9th life and Mr Cartard just squeezed their soy lattes so hard reading this
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:15 pm to
Great news!
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7121 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:16 pm to
frick the Satanists
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25418 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:18 pm to
TEAR DOWN THE WALL.............
















.....at Nancy Pelosi's Cali estate and use the bricks* to make the wall on the southern border 2 feet higher!

* Further, make captured illegals bring the bricks from NoCal to Mexico on their way out!!!
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19114 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

And the communists lose again

fifty
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9261 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:30 pm to
Most of the downvotes are because we just don’t fricking like you.

So cheer up!
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
678 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:30 pm to
Here is a link to the USSC Order.

Trump v Sierra Club
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Here is a link to the USSC Order.
thx
quote:

This case raises novel and important questions about the ability of private parties to enforce Congress’ appropriations power.
So, it looks increasingly likely that this ruling turned entirely upon the standing of the Sierra Club, and that litigation will continue vis-à-vis litigants with more substantive standing claims.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 8:23 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

that litigation will continue vis-à-vis litigants with more substantive standing claims.



Which should be immediately shut down WITH PREJUDICE upon filing, the POTUS is CONSTITUTIONALLY and STATUTORILY empowered to DO THIS. There is no standing when the US Code and Constitution emphatically forecloses on stuff like this. Any judge who entertains lawsuits against the Constitution and US Code should be automatically impeached.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 8:33 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22794 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

This is great news if true and a confirmation that there is again common sense at our highest court.
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