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Frenchman dies after 9 days of court-ordered forced starvation
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:14 pm
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Following nine days of starvation — after French courts gave the green light to his slow, torturous means of death at the hands of French doctors — 42-year-old Vincent Lambert passed away Thursday.
The Catholic Herald reported that Lambert, a disabled French man and former nurse died in Reims, France, after a years-long legal battle between his wife and his parents.
Lambert was left quadriplegic after sustaining massive head injuries during a 2008 traffic accident. His wife wanted to take him off life support years ago; his parents didn't. After years of legal battles that went all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, the Court of Cassation overruled an order from May to maintain Lambert's feeding and hydration support in late June, a story at Aleteia explained.
On July 2, doctors informed the family that Lambert's tube would be removed, effectively condemning the man to a slow death by starvation and dehydration.
Following the July decision, Lambert's mother, Viviane, issued a final, desperate plea to save her son.
"I am launching a call for help today. Without your intervention, my son will be euthanized due to his brain handicap," Viviane told the a U.N. panel in Geneva, explaining that her son was "in a state of minimal conscience but he is not a vegetable."
"In May, when learning about his planned death, [Vincent] cried," Viviane continued. "We are deeply upset this is why we have turned to the U.N. Committee of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities because the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities prohibits depriving a person of food and drink."
"He sleeps at night, wakes up during the day, and looks at me when I talk," Viviane said. "He only needs to be fed through a special device and his doctor wants to deprive him of this so that he can die, while legal experts have have shown that this is not necessary."
"It's murder in disguise," Vincent's 90-year-old father, Pierre Lambert, told reporters at the hospital earlier this week. "It's euthanasia."
Following nine days of starvation — after French courts gave the green light to his slow, torturous means of death at the hands of French doctors — 42-year-old Vincent Lambert passed away Thursday.
The Catholic Herald reported that Lambert, a disabled French man and former nurse died in Reims, France, after a years-long legal battle between his wife and his parents.
Lambert was left quadriplegic after sustaining massive head injuries during a 2008 traffic accident. His wife wanted to take him off life support years ago; his parents didn't. After years of legal battles that went all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, the Court of Cassation overruled an order from May to maintain Lambert's feeding and hydration support in late June, a story at Aleteia explained.
On July 2, doctors informed the family that Lambert's tube would be removed, effectively condemning the man to a slow death by starvation and dehydration.
Following the July decision, Lambert's mother, Viviane, issued a final, desperate plea to save her son.
"I am launching a call for help today. Without your intervention, my son will be euthanized due to his brain handicap," Viviane told the a U.N. panel in Geneva, explaining that her son was "in a state of minimal conscience but he is not a vegetable."
"In May, when learning about his planned death, [Vincent] cried," Viviane continued. "We are deeply upset this is why we have turned to the U.N. Committee of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities because the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities prohibits depriving a person of food and drink."
"He sleeps at night, wakes up during the day, and looks at me when I talk," Viviane said. "He only needs to be fed through a special device and his doctor wants to deprive him of this so that he can die, while legal experts have have shown that this is not necessary."
"It's murder in disguise," Vincent's 90-year-old father, Pierre Lambert, told reporters at the hospital earlier this week. "It's euthanasia."
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:15 pm to Crimson Wraith
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and looks at me when I talk
He was probably pleading... KILL ME NOW!
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:19 pm to Crimson Wraith
Food and water is not life support. They starved that guy to death. That is fricking sick.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:19 pm to Crimson Wraith
Well that is one side of the story, how about we hear the other side now.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:19 pm to Crimson Wraith
Being paralyzed from the neck down and unable to breathe, eat, or speak without computers is not living. I'd rather die than live that life. I understand his parents side, but I;m sure he wasn't "looking" at them and thinking "This is fine. I'm fine. Everything is fine."
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:23 pm to Crimson Wraith
Starving someone for 9 days is murder.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:23 pm to Crimson Wraith
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European Court of Human Rights
Please dear God let me never end up in this place.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:27 pm to Crimson Wraith
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"In May, when learning about his planned death, [Vincent] cried,"
Was it tears of fear or relief?
Once again, we only have one side of the story.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:30 pm to Crimson Wraith
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:40 pm to Crimson Wraith
Reminds me of my favorite Metallica song, "Un."
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:57 pm to Crimson Wraith
All those involved are gonna make for some good company for Josef Mengele in Gehenna.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:58 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Frenchman dies after 9 days of court-ordered forced starvation
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His wife wanted to take him off life support years ago; his parents didn't. After years of legal battles that went all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, the Court of Cassation overruled an order from May to maintain Lambert's feeding and hydration support in late June, a story at Aleteia explained.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:06 pm to Crimson Wraith
2008 : On 29 September 6 , a car accident causes a head trauma that plunges Vincent Lambert into a vegetative coma , from which he will however leave 7 to reach a state of minimal consciousness 8 ("pauci-relational").
2009 : After a stay at the center of awakening of Berck-sur-Mer , Vincent Lambert is transferred to the CHU of Reims 9 .
2011 : Vincent Lambert's first medical expertise at the COMA Science Group in Liège. The expertise notes "a perception of pain and emotions preserved; the voluntary breath test shows a response to the command " 10 . According to the report, "Vincent Lambert is in a pauci-relational state involving the persistence of an emotional perception and the existence of possible reactions to his environment and that, therefore, the artificial diet and hydration had not for the purpose of keeping it artificially alive " 11 .
Since 2011 : Vincent Lambert is immobilized in a minimal state of consciousness, he is not connected to any machine, but can not swallow correctly, he is nourished artificially.
2012 : After returning to the University Hospital of Reims, eighty-seven speech therapy sessions were performed for approximately five months, from April 6 to September 3, 2012, to try to establish a communication code; these sessions failed because of the non-reproducibility of the answers. For the medical team, Vincent does not pretend 10 .
2012 : Despite the failure of speech therapy sessions, health care workers notice behavioral manifestations, which they believe can be interpreted as opposition to toilet care, reflecting a refusal of life. Following these findings and based on his analysis of the absence of favorable neurological evolution of the patient, his doctor initiates the collegial procedure provided for by Article R. 4127-37 of the French Health Code. public 10 .
2013 : On April 10, his doctor concludes with "unreasonable obstinacy" within the meaning of article L.1110-5, and decides to stop the artificial feeding and to decrease the hydration of Vincent Lambert 10 .
2014 : The expert report requested by the Council of State, submitted on May 26, concludes that the clinical condition of Vincent Lambert corresponds to a vegetative state ", with" disorders of swallowing, severe motor impairment of the four limbs, some signs of brainstem dysfunction "and" preserved respiratory autonomy ". The clinical evolution is marked by the disappearance of the fluctuations of the state of consciousness which had been noted during the assessment carried out in July 2011 at the Coma Science Group of the university hospital center of Liège, as well as by the failure of the active therapeutic attempts recommended during this assessment, which suggests "a deterioration of the state of consciousness since that date 10 , 12. The severity of cerebral atrophy and the lesions observed lead, with the delay of five and a half years since the initial accident, to estimate irreversible brain damage. Vincent Lambert may respond to his care and stimulation, but experts indicate that the characteristics of these reactions suggest that they are non-conscious responses and have not considered it possible to interpret these behavioral responses as testifying to a "conscious experience of suffering" or an intention or wish to stop or continue the treatment that keeps him alive 10 .
2018 : On November 22, the experts mandated by the Administrative Court of Châlons-en-Champagne confirm its "chronic irreversible vegetative state". The report also states that his "primary basic needs are not unreasonable or unreasonable obstinacy" and that Vincent Lambert's medical condition "does not call for any emergency measures". It states that "there are structures in France that can accommodate it until its disappearance if the maintenance at the Reims University Hospital is impossible for reasons other than the mere medical technique" 13 . Their conclusions are based on two moments when they examined Vincent Lambert on the evening of September 7 and the next morning with sixteen hours apart.
2009 : After a stay at the center of awakening of Berck-sur-Mer , Vincent Lambert is transferred to the CHU of Reims 9 .
2011 : Vincent Lambert's first medical expertise at the COMA Science Group in Liège. The expertise notes "a perception of pain and emotions preserved; the voluntary breath test shows a response to the command " 10 . According to the report, "Vincent Lambert is in a pauci-relational state involving the persistence of an emotional perception and the existence of possible reactions to his environment and that, therefore, the artificial diet and hydration had not for the purpose of keeping it artificially alive " 11 .
Since 2011 : Vincent Lambert is immobilized in a minimal state of consciousness, he is not connected to any machine, but can not swallow correctly, he is nourished artificially.
2012 : After returning to the University Hospital of Reims, eighty-seven speech therapy sessions were performed for approximately five months, from April 6 to September 3, 2012, to try to establish a communication code; these sessions failed because of the non-reproducibility of the answers. For the medical team, Vincent does not pretend 10 .
2012 : Despite the failure of speech therapy sessions, health care workers notice behavioral manifestations, which they believe can be interpreted as opposition to toilet care, reflecting a refusal of life. Following these findings and based on his analysis of the absence of favorable neurological evolution of the patient, his doctor initiates the collegial procedure provided for by Article R. 4127-37 of the French Health Code. public 10 .
2013 : On April 10, his doctor concludes with "unreasonable obstinacy" within the meaning of article L.1110-5, and decides to stop the artificial feeding and to decrease the hydration of Vincent Lambert 10 .
2014 : The expert report requested by the Council of State, submitted on May 26, concludes that the clinical condition of Vincent Lambert corresponds to a vegetative state ", with" disorders of swallowing, severe motor impairment of the four limbs, some signs of brainstem dysfunction "and" preserved respiratory autonomy ". The clinical evolution is marked by the disappearance of the fluctuations of the state of consciousness which had been noted during the assessment carried out in July 2011 at the Coma Science Group of the university hospital center of Liège, as well as by the failure of the active therapeutic attempts recommended during this assessment, which suggests "a deterioration of the state of consciousness since that date 10 , 12. The severity of cerebral atrophy and the lesions observed lead, with the delay of five and a half years since the initial accident, to estimate irreversible brain damage. Vincent Lambert may respond to his care and stimulation, but experts indicate that the characteristics of these reactions suggest that they are non-conscious responses and have not considered it possible to interpret these behavioral responses as testifying to a "conscious experience of suffering" or an intention or wish to stop or continue the treatment that keeps him alive 10 .
2018 : On November 22, the experts mandated by the Administrative Court of Châlons-en-Champagne confirm its "chronic irreversible vegetative state". The report also states that his "primary basic needs are not unreasonable or unreasonable obstinacy" and that Vincent Lambert's medical condition "does not call for any emergency measures". It states that "there are structures in France that can accommodate it until its disappearance if the maintenance at the Reims University Hospital is impossible for reasons other than the mere medical technique" 13 . Their conclusions are based on two moments when they examined Vincent Lambert on the evening of September 7 and the next morning with sixteen hours apart.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:41 pm to Crimson Wraith
This is what the "viability" argument is for abortion.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:23 pm to Crimson Wraith
I cannot believe trump killed this man. He is evil to control French courts.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:12 pm to Crimson Wraith
There are countless drugs that can end a life quickly and painlessly, so why would they let him starve over 9 days instead of giving him too much morphine or anesthesia?
This man wouldn't have suffered so much if so many people weren't against euthanasia. You can blame the courts for his death if you want, but his suffering is due to the people that fight to keep euthanasia illegal.
Is it murder or euthanasia? It can't be both. Putting someone out of their misery doesn't take 9 days, so it seems more like murder. It's definitely torture.
This man wouldn't have suffered so much if so many people weren't against euthanasia. You can blame the courts for his death if you want, but his suffering is due to the people that fight to keep euthanasia illegal.
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"It's murder in disguise," Vincent's 90-year-old father, Pierre Lambert, told reporters at the hospital earlier this week. "It's euthanasia."
Is it murder or euthanasia? It can't be both. Putting someone out of their misery doesn't take 9 days, so it seems more like murder. It's definitely torture.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:00 pm to Crimson Wraith
The selfishness of the parents is truly sad....Thank God his wife fought to get him out of his living hell. The man was truly in hell....tube feedings, bed sores, infections...
People who keep people alive for a warm hand to hold are cruel beyond measure.
People who keep people alive for a warm hand to hold are cruel beyond measure.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:39 pm to Crimson Wraith
Jesus Christ, what an abomination. Just read he had previously survived 31 days without food and only 500mL of water per day. This guy suffered as an immensely painful death as you will ever read about. He topped a crucifixion by far and I hope the doctors and those in charge of this decision never get a moment of peace.
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