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re: Iran has officially breached the nuke deal

Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:36 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34369 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:36 am to
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Pakistan has a nuclear bomb and threatens the largest Democracy on earth every day with a nuke.



MAD

India has nukes as well.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:38 am to
It is a no win situation for us to be involved in.

Saying "Iran can't have a nuke or else" is just stupid. Or else what?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34369 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:41 am to
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Between KSM and Iran 

I’d rather Iran have a nuke


Agreed. However, neither having nukes would be my most desirable outcome.
Posted by LSU7096
Houston
Member since May 2004
2499 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:42 am to
The got paid and were still doing it anyway. Took them a few months to break threshold. THEY frickED DUMBO EARED HUSSEIN AND THAT DOUCHE KERRY
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24277 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:42 am to
I don't think Israel has a concern about Pakistan right now. Are you changing the subject to US/Pakistan relations?
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5276 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:45 am to
They have just openly breached it now instead of doing it secretly. They are never going to stop trying to get nuclear weapons, no matter what kind of “deal” you make with them.

Same with North Korea
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:46 am to
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This fraud of a deal WAS NOT ratified by Congress.


I know it wasn’t and that’s a gross breach of the Constitution. However, didn’t Dick Durban have a whole lot to do with it getting passed anyway?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23831 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:46 am to
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The got paid and were still doing it anyway. Took them a few months to break threshold. THEY frickED DUMBO EARED HUSSEIN AND THAT DOUCHE KERRY


That's a lot of layers of stupid right there.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34369 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:46 am to
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they were in compliance with terms of deal 


You sure about that champ?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10473 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:48 am to
Well seeing as Trump threw the deal out, why would Iran continue to abide by it?

It makes no sense for them to abide by an agreement the other side has said is over.

Furthermore, it doesn’t take that long to enrich unranium to that level so it likely could have been undertaken since Trump withdrew from the deal.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10473 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:56 am to
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And I'm saying that a country that supports worldwide terrorism and calls for the complete destruction of another country can not be trusted with nuclear weapons.


Awesome. Good to see you have come to your senses and seen the light on who and what Israel is.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:03 am to
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TBoy supports Iran now. Shocking


TBoy supports anything that Trump is against, regardless if it hurts America. LowTboy isn't intelligent.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34369 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:05 am to
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If you were smart enough, you would realize there are other ways to take out a country's infrastructure than dropping nukes. 


Well said and totally correct imo. Throw in obvious air superiority and Israel can bring the Iranian regime to it's knees with very minimal effort.

In short:
Ally with Sunni nations - check
Have tacit support of the US - check
Attack Iran's power grid - check
Bomb the refineries- if they want to
Establish air superiority- check

Then, let the people of Iran overthrow the government (very likely).

Iran, due to the sanctions, already has a suffering populace. If you shut down the power grid and trasportation infrastructure, things will be unmanageable for their government imho.

FWIW, I don't see any of this happening, but don't think that for one second Iran isn't fully aware of the circumstances. That is why they have ramped up nuclear capabilities. They need a bargaining chip and that is pretty much all that they can use.

Just my .02.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:06 am to
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They are never going to stop trying to get nuclear weapons, no matter what kind of “deal” you make with them.

Same with North Korea
Interesting
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:10 am to
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John Kerry and Obama are egging them on in hopes they start a war with the US.




Don't doubt this at all.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4987 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:11 am to
There is nothing for us to breach. All of the obligations are on Iran. All of the obligations are expressions of the will of the civilized world, not the United States. Everybody understands that a nuclear armed Iran is a danger and will destabilize the region. Trump's only concern here was that the deal made by Obama and his minions was a poor solution to the problem. He feels that economic pressure will bring them to their knees. You can agree, or disagree with that, but at least understand what is actually happening, not what you've been manipulated into believing is happening.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:12 am to
Trump needs war.

CNN needs war.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:15 am to
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Trump dropped the USA out of it. It was a multilateral agreement and the Europeans were/are still abiding by it.


Not really, the US sanctions posed a problem and the Europeans were trying to negotiate a way around them but no agreement was reached. Additionally, in a multilateral agreement, if one of the two key parties withdraws, is there really a deal in place to be breached? Whether the Iranians would have breached regardless is now unknowable. The answer to the question of whether they would increase enrichment levels if the US withdrew is "yes".
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105449 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:16 am to
No, they didn’t shoot any craft down. They just held naval personnel and overtook their boats.

Nothing to see there right?

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105449 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:19 am to
Iran didn’t abide by it while in place. They signed it to ease sanctions and get money.

This win the first major infraction.
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