re: What level men’s soccer team would it take to beat the US women’s national team?

U-17 would outclass them

A lot of losers getting offended by OPs honest and genuine question. Not a surprise from the woke sports board

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What's the point? Our women are better than any other group of women in the world

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The point is they are arguing for equal pay. Equal pay would require them getting as far as the men do in the Men's world cup. This argument for equal pay they are making would require equal work and accomplishment yet they cannot outdo club teams when playing against men. Club teams don't get paid so they should be thankful they make a living playing soccer.

No it doesn’t mean that at all actually.

It is based on how much money they bring in, which is comparable to the men’s team. If people watch they should get paid

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The point is they are arguing for equal pay. Equal pay would require them getting as far as the men do in the Men's world cup. This argument for equal pay they are making would require equal work and accomplishment yet they cannot outdo club teams when playing against men. Club teams don't get paid so they should be thankful they make a living playing soccer.

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The women made more tv money than the men this cycle. Money is what drives everything. Chew on that for a bit.

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The point is they are arguing for equal pay. Equal pay would require them getting as far as the men do in the Men's world cup. This argument for equal pay they are making would require equal work and accomplishment yet they cannot outdo club teams when playing against men. Club teams don't get paid so they should be thankful they make a living playing soccer.

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I have a feeling you’re familiar with capitalism. Have you looked at the revenues brought in by the men’s and women’s national teams?

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any high school team would destroy them and thats in all seriousness

then she made sure it was all 100% about her and her alone and no one else on the team matters or should even have their names mentioned

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is there a paragraph missing in the middle of your post?

They should be compensated based on what they bring in (and their negotiating skills, leverage, etc). How they would do in a men’s tournament is completely irrelevant

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Their arguing for equal pay has nothing to do with their talent compared to men/boys. It has everything to do with the level of interest and REVENUE they generate for the sport. i don’t see why you can’t grasp this simple economic point! They generated more revenue than the US men’s team, are WAY more successful and yet are paid substantially less money than the men’s team. That, in every single metric, is wrong. This isn’t about political or sexual preferences, it’s simply about basic economics! They are grossly underpaid and today is the best time they will have to argue this point because most of us only care about soccer during the World Cup! Which, by the way, they’ve now won 2 times in a row while our men’s team hasn’t even made it to the semi-finals!

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It's responses like this that make people make threads like the OP. Both are equally unnecessary. The women should absolutely be paid as much as the men per appearance. However, pointing out their level of success compared to the men is such a horseshite argument. It highlights the hypocrisy of people like Rapinoe bitching about how the US treats womens sports, when the USWNT is the best funded womens team in the world, and the USWNT had about a 20 year head start on the rest of the world regarding soccer because of title IX. We fricking legislated that women had to have a relatively high level system within which to play soccer, and that head start, along with financial backing, is why the USWNT is so successful. Conversely, the US started taking soccer seriously on the mens side after about 90% of the world had already been playing for a century. Additionally, there are so many more countries who can put out competitive teams on the mens side compared to the women's, which is why Rapinoe bitching about the women not playing competitive games compared to the men is dumb. The men play so many competitive games in between WC's because countries like Curacao and St Kitts and Nevis can field men's teams. They can't field women's.

Your argument is essentially akin to advocating for Duke basketball players to get paid because they're constantly competing for championships, and meanwhile the Charlotte Hornets players haven't even made it to the conference finals. Your economics argument has a huge flaw in this same vein as well. While the women and mens teams in the US make similar revenue from US sources and based on interest, the men are part of men's tournaments that overall make way more money than women's tournaments. Again, bc men's soccer is the biggest sporting phenomenon in the world by far, while women's soccer is cared about by roughly 8-10 first world countries.

Tl;dr-The women are awesome and deserve to get paid. Any argument for that references the men's lack of tournament success compared to the women is fricking stupid.

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Just be fricking happy for them.

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Nah frick that

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A lot of losers getting offended by OPs honest and genuine question. Not a surprise from the woke sports board

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No one is offended by it. This thread has been done a million times.

And it's irrelevant to the accomplishments of the team today.

OP being the exception of course. I think he's getting rightly blasted in this thread.