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re: Qs for the Moon Landing HOAXERS - which category are you in?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:50 am to JPinLondon
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:50 am to JPinLondon
Some very intuitive people will see the disingenuous motive behind this thread. Others will reply innocently without understanding that you are really just using this topic in order to announce that you are a NASA engineer. Prime example is on page one. A guy bit and said he would like to talk with you in person about your experience. You have a photo on deck ready to go and then autograph II with your bona fides.
Nobody would disagree that you have had a cool career so far but this was just a pathetic way to get people to know your bona fides.
Nobody would disagree that you have had a cool career so far but this was just a pathetic way to get people to know your bona fides.
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:56 am to JPinLondon
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Cultural Vandals
Burn the Louvre, and wipe your arse with the Mona Lisa. This way at least, God would know our names.
Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:58 am to JPinLondon
Well I've been to the moon, have you?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:16 am to Dick Leverage
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disingenuous motive behind this thread. Others will reply innocently without understanding that you are really just using this topic in order to announce that you are a NASA engineer. Prime example is on page one. A guy bit and said he would like to talk with you in person about your experience. You have a photo on deck ready to go and then autograph II with your bona fides.
Nobody would disagree that you have had a cool career so far but this was just a pathetic way to get people to know your bona fides.
I'm not sure what to say. Did I like it when my mother-in-law introduced me as a space shuttle engineer? Sure, I liked that. But that is no longer the case. Nowadays, I get introduced as the guy that sold his house, left Houston and spends most of his time caring for his elderly mother, with early alzheimers. Or the guy that got laid off from his dream job when the space shuttle program was cancelled, along with, I think, 15,000+ other folks.
The O-T is a strange animal.. lots of accusations, trashy ones too. I once mentioned talking to a Navy Seal when a Tijuana thread was posted.. and I was accused of bragging. As if being friends with a now retired Seal is uncommon (there are nearly 2,500 active Seals - many many more retired)
Regardless, I am a genuine fan of the Apollo Program, I do have a bit of credibility due to my prior career, and the hoaxers do perplex me.
I do have some interesting stories, some of them involve astronaut training, some were mission-specific, and some involve way too much drinking while stationed in Moscow.
But believe what you want... I just wanted to talk about the reasons for the hoax believers.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:19 am to JPinLondon
I don't think you understand how big this hoax is.
Of course you think you're doing great work, they tell the absolute fewest people necessary in order for it to still work.
You being a space shuttle driver doesn't mean we landed on the moon.
Of course you think you're doing great work, they tell the absolute fewest people necessary in order for it to still work.
You being a space shuttle driver doesn't mean we landed on the moon.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:27 am to OysterPoBoy
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you hoaxers
quote:Not really. If I add some cream and sugar, would that soften it up enough?
That is a very confrontational way to start out a polite discussion.
quote:I don't. I have evaluated nearly all of the hoax theories, and I am quite comfortable that they range from impossible (scientifically wrong) to highly, highly unlikely.
I guess I would ask you why you just automatically believe whatever the government tells you?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:30 am to OysterPoBoy
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OysterPoBoy
1/10
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:39 am to JPinLondon
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JPinLondon
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I’m planning on at least a couple threads next month
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:47 am to Cold Drink
just for that, maybe I'll do one a day in July, and have "sponsored by Cold Drink" in the title!
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:51 am to GetCocky11
It’s pretty non progressive and small minded to think everything you saw through the media at this time (60s and 70s) was all 100% real. Again, it happened and prob happened in the manner in which it’s depicted. Some evidence is most likely organic, while some is prob a little ‘doctored’ or re performed.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 9:53 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:52 am to Cold Drink
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:53 am to BabyTac
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It’s pretty non progressive and small minded to think everything you saw through the media at this time was all 100% real. Again, it happened and prob happened in the manner in which it’s depicted. Some evidence is most likely organic, while some is prob a little ‘doctored’ or remastered.
If we actually went to the moon (which we did), then why would we have to doctor anything?
Being skeptical of the message you’re being told and accepting that certain things actually happened are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:14 am to JPinLondon
Hey, look. A guy who worked for NASA believes we actually landed on the moon. What a surprise.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:26 am to Cold Drink
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If we actually went to the moon (which we did), then why would we have to doctor anything?
This is a great question. And the answer is complex. Think of the bureaucracy of the federal government when analyzing this one. Imagine a couple dozen Gemini and Apollo missions, and ALL of the footage from each. Then imagine ALL the training done, and some of that filmed.
Then imagine a "high-fidelity" training event that was filmed. That film was copied, and given to a news station in Atlanta, because an astronaut on the flight is from Rome, GA (five weeks before launch). The reel has some adhesive label on it "final EVA training event for Apollo 14 - White Sands, New Mexico". In 1982, the adhesive label falls off.
Someone finds the reel in a basement in 1993 and gives it to a local science museum. The museum is contacted by a documentary filmmaker in 2002 and is loaned a box of photos, VHS tapes and film reels including the aforementioned reel.
And the footage makes it into some documentary, and 5% of the viewers can tell it is "fake". And so on and so on. So yes, this is a fact of the nature of footage, and of bureaucracy, and the failings of documentation and record-keeping.
Yet the result is, four viewers now KNOW the moon landings were faked, and NOTHING can change their minds!
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:33 am to Cold Drink
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If we actually went to the moon (which we did), then why would we have to doctor anything?
This is a great question. It's a fact they were creating fake footage. You can watch a video of astronauts trying to create fake footage of being far from the Earth.
This isn't proof that everything was a hoax, but it should make any objective person question why.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:36 am to JPinLondon
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fiftieth anniversary of Apollo XI's amazing journey,
What a fricking embarrassment that we haven’t been back in nearly 50 years.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:36 am to High C
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Hey, look. A guy who worked for NASA believes we actually landed on the moon. What a surprise.
The first manned lunar landing happened two years before I was born. My career was unrelated, obviously.
I am far more proud as an American, or perhaps as a human being, that we overcame hundreds of very complex problems and achieved what I think was the greatest engineering achievement of all-time.
Cultural vandals do not have that pride, for some reason. I'd like to know more about WHY?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:36 am to Cold Drink
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If we actually went to the moon (which we did), then why would we have to doctor anything?
When I had someone talk about this same theory to me, they said it was their belief that the Govt faked the moon landing just so we could say we were there before Russia whether we actually made it there first or not. He said we eventually did land on the moon only a few years later***
***I don't endorse this theory
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:41 am to jchamil
Why is our tech now not as good as the 60s?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:42 am to GhostofJackson
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Why is our tech now not as good as the 60s?
Huh?
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