re: I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid

Go all voucher forcing schools to compete for students and waste will come out and teacher pay will go up and go up dramatically.

In the state of Mississippi teachers don't have paid maternal leave. That is seriously F****ed up.

If you're a conservative, you're on board with dismantling the Department of Education and vouchers or some other form of replacing public education with private options.

I am a conservative teacher that doesn't believe that we are underpaid.

Responding to the bullet points:

- socialist teachings 

To a degree, yes. But "indoctrination" is currently far more prevelent through the MSM, TV commercials, and social media. In short, conservative teachers simply don't cover bullshite in class. Additionally, there are more conservative teachers than you think.

- lack of results 

This is a tough one as it is difficult to quantify. The BS that JBE and John White are pushing with "school performance scores" is moronic. There are major issues with the system imo.

- lack of accountability 

The issue is attempting to make chicken salad out of chicken shite. With "no child left behind", failure is not being able to take a child with an IQ of 40 and turn them into Einstein.

- and government ran and that equals waste and lack of production

Agree fully.


As for the issues with education imho:

1. Reign in "special education." When a VERY large portion of your budget deals with 10% of your student population (and growing), then the average "cost per child" is grossly skewed. This has to be addressed imo.

2. Revamp the "guaranteed curriculum".
Why do we have World History AND World Geography? Why is American History divided into two parts...taught in 7th grade and 11th grade no less? Why don't we have a US Geography? Why don't we have "tracks" based on ability. Does the SPED kid, who will never go to college, need Algebra? Why don't we have "Consumer Math" as an intro Math course anymore? Why do we require foreign language as a graduation requirement? In short...we have too many teachers covering subject matter that, while interesting, isn't pertinent for most.

I would focus on three tracks beginning in 9th grade. By the time a student enters 11th grade, they should be in either a college preparatory curriculum, a "trade based" preparatory curriculum, or a GED class.

3. Discipline has to be a focal point. SPED students are untouchable, and are the root cause for roughly half of all disciplinary issues (despite being a small portion of the student population). SPED students with "behavioral issues" are only allowed to be "exluded" from school for 10 days...after that, they are pretty much untouchable. This is a HUGE iisue imho.

4. Online schooling needs to be implemented. Brick and mortar schools need to stop being constructed after current construction is complete.



TLDR - Betsy Devos and the DOE, and John White and the state DOE, are the issues. Those two people could radically change the face of education overnight imho. Put "the leg" in charge and I would kick arse and make shite happen.

Lastly, I am not a member of the union.

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I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid

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In business, the better the salary, generally the the better people come in for employment.

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Really? I am in business as well and I can tell you the better people drive the results that allow for better pay.

I have hired some outstanding people at market or even below market rates and when they prove out they get a good raise to well above market.

Teaching is not hard from a mental standpoint. It is a challenge from who they have to deal with, but that is on the parents. There is no one in teaching who thought they were going to make it rich.

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I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid

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I agree with this to an extent.

Science and Math teachers are absolutely underpaid, and we need to be paying them more. I'd say History too, but History in public schools is a joke so I don't feel comfortable going that far.

English, Art, and Music teachers are mostly overpaid. Seriously, what else are you going to do with a degree in one of these fields? If you aren't a famous musician, author, journalist, or artist...what else are you going to do with that garbage degree you got? Nothing. We need to pay the position what it's worth, and these positions are worth less than they're being paid. We need to start discouraging people from going into these fields using teaching is a "fallback plan."

The problem is that you can't pay different teaching positions that way. ALL teachers get a raise at the exact same time and ALL teachers are paid on the same salary schedules. Until this changes, I do not support raising salaries for ANY teachers.

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So am I. If you think throwing money at them is going to change a progressive/socialist bent of a government worker to a conservative, you are mistaken.

Teachers pension and medical after 30 years are worth a lot more than you realize.

I could argue teaching is one of the most lucrative careers you could go into considering those benefits.

Who else gets to retire in their 50’s?

Teachers traded time off and benefits for salary years ago.

Also there is no metrics they agree to be judged on